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901 posting from found on Bradford online forum:

"...the earliest Bradford I have around the area of Bradford's Neck is Nathaniel Bradford, whose Will was proven November 19, 1690 in Accomac County, VA. In his Will are mentioned only his wife, Joane and one child, William.

I have two books that have given me considerable information: 'Wills and Administrations, Accomack County, Virginia 1663-1800' originally published by Stratton Nottingham in 1931 (mine is the newer publication that has been indexed and re-published in 1999 by the Genealogical Publishing Co. of Baltimore Maryland) and 'Land Causes Accomack County, Virginia 1727-1826' originally published in 1930 and reprinted in 1999 also by the same company.

I've categorized each Bradford family member in each book and by matching up the names of spouses and children have been able to put together a pretty comprehensive family group for each descendant and who inherited what land. I would love to correspond with anyone that descends from the Bradfords of Accomac Co, VA in order to solidify the last (maiden) names of the spouses, that of course, are not listed in the Wills.
I descend from William Bradford, and Sarah Scarburgh/Scarborough through their daughter Sabra Bradford, who married Capt. William Polk.
William Bradford's Will was proven on June 28, 1785 in Accomac Co. VA.

I can be contacted here on the message boards or at"
per 'Avents of Avents Ferry' was living in Northampton Co., VA in 1658, w ill prob. 11/19/1690,

III. NATHANIEL BRADFORD, Accomack Co., VA Immigrated about 1650 possibly to Northampton Co VA Family generally described as 'Planters'.There are NO Bradfords listed in the book: COUNTY COURT RECORDS OF ACCOMACK-NORTHAMPTON, VIRGINIA 1640-1645 edited by Susie M. Ames. In 1697 Colonel Scarburgh petitioned that his competitor, NATHANIEL BRADFORD, a currier by trade, should be punished for his failure to perform the duties, which the law imposed upon all who followed that business. Bradford was the owner of a tan-house and a shoemaker's shop, and at the time of his death was in possession of 318 hides and 46 lasts! Such competition was not welcomed by Scarburgh. [Currier > cures or tans hides]
note: On the map, the yellow peninsula on the right is Northampton County on the bottom and Accomack County above that.

1. NATHANIEL BRADFORD (1625 Eng. - 1690 Accomack Co, VA) m. 1. Alice Smith 2. Joan (Jeane) Franklin

The father of Alice Smith, Richard Smith, came to Virginia in the London Merchant, March 1619/20. He was living at Pasbehaighs, James City, at the time of the census, 1623/4 and the muster, 1624/5. Soon, however, he moved to the Eastern Shore, where he had been granted, 18 November 1618, 200 acres in Accawmack County, 23 September 1639. The area where he resided became Northampton County and in his will, proved 31 January 1659/60, he mentioned 500 acres which he divised to his daughter Alse Smith and 450 acres left to his daughter Susan Smith.

Since he divised to his daughter Alice by her maiden surname, Smith, and also referred to Nathaniel Bradford as his son-in-law, it seems clear Richard Smith had two wives, both dead when he wrote his will, one of whom was the mother of Alice and probably of Susan, and one who was a widow Bradford, mother of Nathaniel Bradford. Susan Smith was left "the linen which was her mother's".

ALICE SMITH married her step-brother NATHANIEL BRADFORD......... After the death of Alice, Nathaniel married Joan (Jeane) Franklin, sister of Henry Franklin of Northumberland County, by whom he had a son John. She and William Bradford, his son and heir were granted letters of administration on his estate, 18 November 1690. compiled by Glenn Bray 1999

1658 Land Grant of 400 acres in Northampton Co, VA

1662 Land Grant of 1000 acres Matchepungo Creek Accomack known as 'Bradford's Neck' or Atlantic View.

Va Quit Rents 1683/Nathaniel 3620 acres/ Nathaniel 2918 acres Accomack

1. Nathaniel b. 1661 probably no issue
2. William (1663 - 1736) m. Bridget Fisher
[1704 Accomack Co Quit Rents 3500 acres]
a. NATHANIEL d. by 1734m. Elizabeth Parker
b. WILLIAM m. Sarah (child Sabra m. Capt. Wm. Polk)
c. THOMAS (had son Edmund)
e. JOHN FISHER , d. 1784 Accomack m. Sarah (issue: JAMES, JOHN, JACOB,
Rachel, Peggy, LABAN, ARTHUR, ROBERT, Sarah)
f. SARAH m. Jeodiah Bell
g. FISHER (1714 - 1764 Accomack) m. Mary Millechops (issue: NATHANIEL,
Anne, Betty, Rachel, Susannah, Esther, Mary)
h. ANN m. 1. Cornelius Johnson 2. John Laylor 3. Thomas Bonewell
i. BRIDGETT m. 1. Nathan Addison 2. John Pierce 3. Bartholomew Twiford
j. ABIGAIL m. Henry Trader

3. John b. 1677 d. 1754 Worcester Co., MD m. Tabitha Lecatt

Listed with 364 acres 1704 Quit Rent rolls Accomack Co, VA

6/19/1698, by deed recorded in Accomac, JOHN BRADFORD of Accomac, youngest son of NATHANIEL BRADFORD, late of same county, deceased, quit all claims in relation to the administration granted by the Court to his mother Jeane Bradford, and the said WILLIAM BRADFORD.

2/7/1713 JOHN BRADFORD of Accomac, Planter, conveyed to Thomas Nock, 300 acres at Assanwomen on said creek, bought by Bradford from Sarah Budd,1698.
a. SUSANNAH b. abt. 1698
b. NATHANIEL b. abt. 1699
d. WILLIAM b. abt. 1704 Accomack
i. JOHN b. abt. 1716 Worcester Co., MD 
Bradford, Nathaniel (I0186)
902 Premature birth. Avent, Maureen Kay (I2948)
903 Premature birth. Avent, Martin Gene (I2949)
904 Probably the same George Finch:

American Civil War Soldiers Record
Name: George William Finch
Residence: Nash County, North Carolina
Occupation: Farmer
Enlistment Date: 01 June 1861
Side Served: Confederacy
State Served: North Carolina
Service Record: Enlisted as a Private on 01 June 1861 at the age of 19
Enlisted in Company E, 7th Infantry Regiment North Carolina on 01 June 1861.
POW on 14 July 1863 at Falling Waters, MD
Wounded on 14 July 1863 at Falling Waters, MD (Wounded left hip)
Hospitalized on 20 July 1863 at Frederick, MD (Estimated day, also at Baltimore, MD)
Paroled on 20 August 1863 (Estimated day)
Transferred on 20 August 1863 (Estimated day)
Received on 24 August 1863 at City Point, VA (For exchange)
Returned on 31 January 1864 (Estimated day)
Wounded on 15 July 1864 (Estimated day)
Absent on 31 July 1864 (Estimated day, wounded)
POW on 03 April 1865 at Petersburg, VA (In hospl)
Paroled on 27 April 1865

1900 census, Nash Co., NC, Bailey:

Finch, George W., Head, Jun 1844, b. MS, both parents b. NC, farmer
Priscilla, wife, Feb, 1853, b. NC, both parents b. NC
Clayton C., Jun 1878
Lee R., b. Jun 1882
George L., b. July 1885
Durwood (?-hard to read), b. Jan 1888
Rodger L., b. Jul 1890
Calvin R., father, b. Mar. 1818, NC, both parents b. NC

1880 census, Nash Co., NC, Bailey:
Finch, Geo W. 37, farmer
Priscilla, 37
John W., 11
Henry T., 9
Odie J. M., 6, daughter
Rosa Ann, 4
Clayton C., 2
Frank, 26, brother
Finch, George W. (I2093)
905 Probably the same man (birth dates match):
American Civil War Soldiers Record
Name: William M Harper
Residence: Chatham County, North Carolina
Enlistment Date: 28 May 1861
Side Served: Confederacy
State Served: North Carolina
Service Record: Absent (Wounded through Dec. 1863)
Enlisted as a Private on 28 May 1861 at the age of 33
Enlisted in Company E, 26th Infantry Regiment North Carolina on 28 May 1861.
Wounded on 01 July 1863 at Gettysburg, PA (Wounded in the left leg)
Absent on 30 January 1864 (On light duty through Oct. 1864)
Returned on 30 November 1864 (Estimated day)
Absent on 30 January 1865 (On detached service)

1870 census, Chatham Co., NC, Bear Creek:
Harper, William, 42, farmer, b. NC
Jane, 29
Mary, 5
Fannie, 4
Rufus, 1

1900 census, Chatham Co., NC, Bear Creek:
Harper, William M., Jul 1828, m. 45 yrs
Sarah Jane, wife, Sep 1840, m. 45 yrs
Smith, Laura, granddaughter, Sep 1889
Name: William M. Harper
Sex: M
Birth: 19 JUL 1828
Death: 29 OCT 1904

Father: Joseph Harper b: ABT. 1790
Mother: Mary

Marriage 1 Sarah Jane Rodgers b: SEP 1840
Daisy Florence Harper
Marty Ann Harper b: 6 DEC 1864
Fannie Jane. Harper b: 17 APR 1865 in Chatham Co., NC
Rufus Calvin Harper b: 23 NOV 1868
Ralph Harper b: 19 MAY 1871
Joseph D Harper b: 25 JAN 1878
Harper, William M. (I2141)
906 profession shown as 'miller' on 1870 census. No 'James Ray' in Chatham Co. in 1860 census, though there is a 'James W. Ray' who's the right age in Cumberland Co. 1850 Chatham Co. census shows:

Rebecca, Heon (???-hard to read), 45
Nancy Davis, 73
Elizabeth Ray, 35, b. NC
James Ray, 14
William S. Gunter, 30

in same household.

1910 census, Chatham Co., NC, Center:
Ray, James W., 75
Cornelia, wife, 67
J. Robert, son, 28
Alice, daughter in law, 24
Pauline, granddaughter, 4
Evine, granddaughter, 2
Ralph, grandson, 7/12

1880 census, Chatham Co., NC:

Ray, James W., 45
Cornelia, 37
Eliza A., 18
Nancy E., 16
John R., 14
Vance, 11
Mary, 11
Fred, 5
Louisa, 3
Roxana, 2
Infant, 2/12

No James Robert Ray, b. ca 1883, on 1900 census, but this is likely his family: (the only males in Chatham Co. in census b. w/in 5 yrs of 1883 were: Robert Ray, Artemas Ray, Issac J Ray, Joseph M Ray, Columbus H Ray)

Ray, James, Head, Feb 1835
Cornelia, wife, Feb 1844
Robert, son, May 1881
Nora, daughter, May 1883
Artemas, son, Nov 1885

These CSA soldiers from NC named James Ray:

Ray, James,1st Regiment, North Carolina Cavalry
Ray, James,3rd Regiment, North Carolina Infantry

# Name: James W RAY
# Given Name: James W
# Surname: RAY
# Suffix: Jr
# Sex: M
# _UID: 0BFC1CF15586FC428260BF193E76C94EB202
# Change Date: 25 Mar 2004
# Birth: FEB 1835 in NC
# Birth: <1835> in NC 1
# Death: BEF 1920
# Census: 1880 Gulf, Chatham Co, NC
# Note: Age 45 in 1880 Census which states he was M, W, married, and a farmer. He was born in NC as were both his father and mother. 1
# Residence: 1910 Center Township, Chatham Co, NC
# Note: Age 75 in 1910 Census which states he owned his farm free, could read, write and speak English. 2
# Residence: 1900 Center Township, Chatham Co, NC
# Note: Age 65 in 1900 Census which states he was a farmer who owned his own farm. 3
# Residence: 1870 Pittsboro, Chatham Co, NC
# Note: Age 36 in 1870 Census which reports his occupation was a miller. Value of personal estate was $150. 4

Marriage 1 Cornelia ANDREWS b: FEB 1841 in NC

* Married: 31 OCT 1861 in Chatham Co, NC
* Note: Marriage Performed by A J Gilbert. 5


1. Eliza A RAY b: <1862> in NC
2. Nancy E RAY b: <1864> in NC
3. John R RAY b: <1866> in NC
4. Vance RAY b: <1869> in NC
5. Mary RAY b: <1869> in NC
6. Fred RAY b: <1875> in NC
7. Emma Louise RAY b: 23 JAN 1876 in Chatham Co, NC
8. Roxann RAY b: <1878> in NC
9. Baby RAY b: <1880> in NC
Ray, James W. (I2080)
907 Prominent Macon, GA policeman.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: John T Avent
Home in 1900: Macon, Bibb, Georgia
Age: 34
Birth Date: Nov 1865
Birthplace: Georgia
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Georgia
Mother's Birthplace: Georgia
Spouse's name: Maggie
Marriage Year: 1889
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 11
Residence : Macon City, Bibb, Georgia
Household Members:
Name Age
John T Avent 34
Maggie Avent 25
Earle Avent 8
Albert Avent 6
Lloyd Avent 3 
Avent, John Thomas (I3847)
908 prominent Methodist circuit rider. Click the 'Avent-related Photographs, Scans, Documents, etc.' link on the main page of this website for much more info on Isaac and his ministry.

1880 Census
Census Place: Buckhorn, Harnett, North Carolina Source: FHL Film 1254967 National Archives Film T9-0967 Page 83D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
Isaac W. AVENT Self M M W 56 NC Occ: Minister & Farmer Fa: NC Mo: NC
Temperance AVENT Wife F M W 59 NC Occ: Keeping House Fa: NC Mo: NC
William PORTER Other M S W 22 NC Occ: Laborer Fa: NC Mo: NC
Robert A. MIMS Nephew M S W 1 8 NC Occ: Attending School Fa: NC Mo: NC

from gravestone:

Rev Isaac Watts Avent
B: 9/8/1823
D: 1/18/1900
Married to:
Temperence Avent
B: 1/11/1818
D: 6/3/1895

Chloe Hinton Avent
Wife of Rev Isaac W. Avent
Daughter of G.W. and S.E. Becham
B: 8/5/1844
D: 4/25/1904 
Avent, Isaac Watts (I0217)
909 Proposed Change: Walter H. Avent (I3541)
Tree: avefamily

Description: Walter H. Avent (I3541) is my great grandfather. His entry only shows one son, James Robert Avent and does not show his other son, my grandfather, Samuel Walter Avent, b. 7/24/1894, Hardeman County, TN, d. 12/3/1951, Memphis, TN. h/o Hester Ophelia Callahan Avent, b. 6/16/1896, d. 8/16/1976.

Children of Samuel Walter Avent and Ophelia Callahan Avent:

George Walter Phenton Avent, b. 2/26/1920 d. 3/19/2005
Margaret Marie Avent Vincent
Bernice Elizabeth Avent Sandy b. 1/8/1923
Druphus Wade Avent b. 8/15/1925 d. 1/25/2003
James Ward Avent
Samuel Orr Franklin Avent b. 8/14/1931 d. 1/10/2000
Emma Louise Avent Sain
Benjamin Pope Avent

Link to find-a-grave entry for Samuel Walter Avent:

Herb Sandy
Jan 2013 
Avent, Samuel Walter (I4209)
910 Pvt., NC Continental Line, 3rd Regiment under Colonel Archibald Lytle, Captain Benjamin Carter Waller, Nathaniel (I4115)
911 Ranulph de Neville (b. 18 Oct 1262 Raby, Durham), is also known as Ranulph Fitz Robert de Neville, Knt.[1][2][3]

Parents and Siblings

Ranulph was born to Robert de Neville (d. 06 Aug 1271) and Mary FitzRanulf (d. shortly bef. 11 Apr 1320), who married about 1260. They had five sons and four daughters:

Ranulph (or Randolph), Knt., 1st Lord Neville of Raby[1]
Robert de Neville[1]
Ralph de Neville[1]
Henry de Neville[1]
Reynold de Neville[1]
Margaret de Neville, married Gilbert de Wauton[1]
Jane de Neville[1]
Mersia de Neville[1]
Anastastia de Neville[1]
Ranulph's parents were buried at Coverham Abbey in Yorkshire.[1]


Ranulph married twice. His first wife is Euphame de Clavering. They had 5 sons and 4 daughters:[1][4][5]He had no children with his second wife, Margery de Thweng, daughter of John, son of Marmaduke de Thweng.[1][2]

m.1 (bef. 12 Mar 1280/1) Euphame de Clavering, dau. of Robert Fitz Roger, Knt., and Margery, dau. of Alan la Zouche[1] Issue:
Robert de Neville, Knt.
Ralph de Neville, 2nd Lord Neville,
m. Alice de Audley, widow of Ralph de Greystoke, Knt. (d. 14 Jul 1323), dau. of Hugh de Audley, Knt. and Iseult.[1]
Alexander de Neville, Knt.
John de Neville
Thomas de Neville, clerk (Archdeacon of Durham)
Anastasia de Neville
m. Walter de Fauconberg, Knt.
Mary de Neville
Ida de Neville[6]
Eupheme de Neville[6]

He fought in Wales 1287, and in Scotland 1291, 1296, 1297, 1300. He was summoned to Parliament from 24 June 1295 to 18 Feb. 1330/1 by writs directed Ranulpho (and Radulpho) de Neville, whereby he is held to have become Lord Neville.[1][7]


Ranulph de Neville died shortly after 18 April 1331, and was buried in the Choir at Coverham Abbey, Yorkshire,[1] on the south side of the altar at Coverham Abbey, England.[8][2]


? 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 Richardson, D. (2011). Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd ed., III, pp 240-242. Salt Lake City. (citing: #4 Mary Fitz Ranulph, #5 Ranulph de Neville, #6 Ralph de Neville).
? 2.0 2.1 2.2 Cawley, C. (2006). "Randolph Neville." Medieval Lands v.4. Web.[1][2] Retrieved 31 March 2015.
? Wikipedia: Ralph Neville, 1st Baron Neville de Raby
Many writers (including Wikipedia and Cokayne, 1895) call him Ralph, but there seems to be no basis for this except maybe a mistake in a Parliamentary writ. Cawley (2006) lists him as Randolph Neville.
? Richardson, D. (2013). Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, IV, pp 227-228. (see: #10)
? mid-15th century manuscript names 12 children of Ranulfum de Neville, (Cawley, 2006). >> Here, Cawley (2006), is actually referencing the pedigree of Taillbois and Neville.[3]
? 6.0 6.1 Richardson lists dau. Ida and Eupheme, who are not listed in the mid-15th century manscript cited by Cawley (2006).
? 1295: Barony by Writ, (Cokayne, 1895, p. 12).[4]
? Wikipedia: Coverham Abbey
Cokayne, G.E. (1895). The Complete Peerage, 1st ed., VI, pp. 12.[5]
Lundy, D. "Ranulf de Neville, 1st Lord Neville." The Peerage. Web. Retrieved 31 March 2015.[6] (citing Mosley, C. (1999). Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th ed. Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd.
Lewis, M. Randolph de Neville, 1st Lord Neville of Raby, Lord of Warkworth Castle] ORTNCA. Web.[7] (follows Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry).
De Neville, Ranulph (I4558)
912 Rebecca Dobson's book "Possums Run Over Their Graves, p 22 says Abner was raised by Benjamin Avent...went into Halifax CO NC about 1800, stayed there until 1810, moved to Nash Co NC, then to Smith Co TN about 1815. Died there. Will Probated 1822. Wife named "Mary". Children Thomas,Nancy,Elizabeth,Peggy,Polly Evans, Benjamin, Rebeccy Fite...also in will was Patsy Anderson-relationship not clarified.

"Abner born 1777 NC died 1822 Smith Co. Tn. he married Mary Ward. 8 children"

Will dated 25 May 1822 Smith County, Tennessee

Recorded 25 Sept 1822

Abner Avent moved to Tennessee from North Carolina
In his will he names his wife Mary and names his children Polly Evans, Rebekey Fite, Benjamin, Nancy, Elizabeth, Peggy, Thomas. "to my young children Thomas, Nancy, Elizabeth and Peggy" and he mentions Patsey Anderson of whom he left $2.00 to [this could be another daughter].
The interesting thing in the will is Abner leaves everything to Mary "provided she kept his children together and behaved herself in a respectable manner and if not after one year everything was to be sold and equally divided among the children."

Note: Patsy Aven married Francis Anderson 1814 Halifax, N C

From Garland Avent:

Allen, Amos and Abner lived in Nash County in the late 1700's and were the children of one Thomas and Rebecca Avent who lived where I grew up in Aventon...Abner moved to Tn after the death of his first wife and had another family there. Allen and Amos were removed to Chatham County NC after their guardian was changed to Joseph Johnston. Later they moved to Va and Tn.

Smith County Probate Records: 1805-1823 Smith: Roll # 104: Probate Records: Vol. 5,1,2,4,6: Nov. 1805-1833 Tennessee State

Avent, Abner

Avent, Abner

Avent, Abner

Avent, Abner
estate sale
Avent, Abner (I0083)
913 Received lot #2 from father's will.

buried at Buckhorn UMC, Chatham Co., NC. Tombstone:
Avent Mary A. E. November 7, 1866 March 14, 1900 w/o W.A. Avent
Cotten, Mary Ann (I0283)
914 Recent (2010) DNA testing strongly indicates that this James Pollock was in some way descended from Robert Bruce Polk and Magdalen Tasker. From Bill Polk, 4/2010:

"We now know, from DNA testing of descendants of Robert Polk/Magdalen Tasker Porter, that William Polk who m. Sabra Bradford is descended from the same Polks as Robert Polk aforementioned. We do not know for sure, based on these DNA tests that Robert himself is the progenitor, but if not him, then an unknown brother, probably, of Robert. My bet would be that Robert and Magdalen are the ancestors, though I am still at a loss to figure out how James Pollock, the proven father of William Polk, is associated with Robert and Magdalen. We don't really know when James Pollock was born, I am estimating c1707. If this be correct or even close, then James Pollock is either a son of a younger son of Robert and Magdalen, or the grandson of an older son of Robert and Magdalen. But I cannot make anyone I know of fit, so perhaps there is an unknown son that no one has found. OR, back to the brother of Robert Polk theory. Anyway, we know the line is accurate back to James Pollock and wife Margaret (and I still do not know her surname, Lawry or Lowry on being an educated guess)."
from Bill Polk:

I believe that the father of William Polk of Accomac is James Pollock of Cumberland Co., PA., and his wife Margaret Lawry. I also believe that
the Capt. Robert Polk (Robert Polk IV), SUPPOSED son of Robert Polk III (per above discussion) is the brother of Capt. William Polk of Accomac, and they probably had siblings: James, Jean, John and Martha. James Pollock (or Poalk), Hopewell Twp, Cumberland Co., PA., left a will dated March 31, 1772/probated 25 May 1773." Lists:
Son John.
Daus. Jean Hindman and Martha Dobson.
Sons James, William and Robert.
Ex.: son John Pollock.
Wit: John Moorhead, Peter Dickey. B. 154.

POLK, JOHN, Hopewell. October 27, 1772/14 June 1774.
Mother Margaret Polk.
Bro. James Polk.
Children of brother, William and Robert Polk, now living in the Eastern Shore of Virginia. [NOTE THIS !!!!!!!]
Bro. Wm. Polk.
Ex.: Bro. James Polk.
Wit: John Moorhead, Samuel McKinney. B. 170. [NOTE SAME WITNESS John Moorhead; had land nearby the Polks]

It appears to me that the son John Polk of James Pollock, above (who d. cMay 1773), is the same man as the John Polk, above, who d. c1774. I think this because of proximity, timeframe, same names for brothers (James, William and Robert), and what appears to be the same witness John Moorhead. It seems evident by the mention of the mother Margaret Polk in John Polk's will that she was a widow, which fits in with James Pollock dying earlier. The surname of Lawry for Margaret Polk, wife of James Pollock/Poalk, I found in a file in Gene Pool. I do know that the Polks and Lowry/Lawry had some intermingling back in Cecil Co., MD., so this surname has merit, but I have yet to prove it.

First, there is no known connection of Capt. William Polk of Accomac back to William Polk and Priscilla Roberts or to the fictitious Jurgutha Hugg (no such person ever existed, I believe). This connection(s) come from old Polk genealogies and are way off. The children of William Polk and Priscilla Roberts are John, Jane, Ann, that's all. I believe the weight of evidence shows Capt. William Polk of Accomac to be the son of James Pollock of Cumberland Co., PA., who d. there in 1773, leaving will. His wife was Margaret, though I have no evidence she was a Lawry/Lowery (quite possible). He did have a daughter named Martha who married a Dobson (will info shows this). I do not know if this Dobson was the same as the William Carlyle Dobson who was in NC. (d. Stokes Co., NC., 1813, from info another researcher). I had some info from another researcher who had the wife of William C. Dobson (Martha Jane Polk, 1758-1807)as the daughter of James Polk/Sarah Henderson, said James Polk the son of James Polk/Anne Williams, said James being the son of Robert Polke/Magdalen Tasker Porter Polk, but that is incorrect, as James Polk/Anne Williams children I can prove and there is no connection. I would like to know if the evidence anyone has points to William Carlyle Dobson being the same as the Dobson who married Martha, daughter of James Pollock of Cumberland. Another daughter of James Pollock, Jean, married a Hindman (also per James Pollock's will), but I know nothing more on this. If the Hindmans went to NC, too, then that might be a clue that the Dobson who m. Martha was the same as William C. Dobson of NC. Discussion anyone? Bill Polk, Kansas City, MO.

from Billy F. Polk FTM homepage (7/1/03):
Pp. 45-47, "Polk Family and Kinsmen, shows the following: ""There were a number of Pollocks at and adjacent to Carlisle, Pa, between 1730 and the Revolutionary War. Some changed their names to Polk, while others adhered to the older form --- Pollock. Of persons named Pollock, at Carlisle just before the Revolution, there was one James Pollock, possibly the James Pollock (No. 4) of the above list [BILL POLK ADDITION: this refers to a list of the children of James Polk shown on pg. 45; these children are the same ones shown in my FTM database].

This Carlisle James appears to have been born somewhere between 1700 and 1710, and hence the date of birth of the above James (1707) would about fit him. This Carlisle James left a will dated May 25, 1773, in which he mentions six children: 1John; 2Jean, who married Mr. Hinchman; 3Martha, who married Mr. Dobson; 4James; 5William; 6Robert. The probable date of the birth of James, as stated, was about the same time, but that is not positive proof that they were one and the same person. Some contend that the Carlisle James belonged to the Pennsylvania Pollock family, (whose ancestors came to America from Coleraine, Ireland, considerably later than Robert Bruce Polk) of whom Oliver Pollock the Revolutionary patriot, and the late Governor Pollock, were distinguished members.

There is also on file at Carlisle the will of one John Polk of date Oct. 27, 1772. He appears to have been unmarried and devised his property to his 'aged mother Margaret Polk,' and brothers James, William and Robert, 'now living on the Eastern Shoar of Virginia.' This will was probated June 14, 1774, and it is quite probable that the testator was John the second named of the above James Pollock of the 1773 will. Definite proof of this, however, is lacking, and the work of unravelling this knot is left to others who may wish to attempt the task.

Joseph Pollock, of Dorchester County, Md., in his will of Sept. 12, 1751, probated June 10, 1752, appoints his 'friend John Pollock, son of James Pollock,' to divide certain lands between his sons Robert and Zephaniah Pollock.

Of Henry Pollock, Mary Pollock, Sarah Pollock, Margaret Pollock, Elizabeth Pollock, Magdalen Pollock, Jane Pollock, Anna Pollock, and the one mentioned by James Pollock in his will as yet unborn, the records are silent and concerning them deponent saith not.

Concerning this James Polk, whose identity as a son of Robert and Magdalen Polk has in a measure been questioned by some, attention is called to two points in his will. One of these is where he speaks of 'my cousin Charles;' the other where he mentions 'my cousin Edward Roberts.' The latter unquestionably was the son of Francis and Ann (Polk) Roberts, who married his cousin Ann or Nancy, daughter of John Polk by his first wife Jane _______.
[ Space and >>> added by BILL POLK] >>>>>> But who was his 'Cousin Charles?' Was he the first son of Ephraim Polk? Or, was he the Chas. Polk who appears to have been a son of William Polk by a first wife? This Charles (of William) was born somewhere about 1700 to 1707, it appears, and going to the upper Potomac frontier, became an Indian trader and died in 1753 [BILL POLK ADDITION: This latter Charles being referred to is Charles Polke, the Indian Trader, supposed son of William Polk of Maryland, and supposed brother of William Polk who married Margaret Taylor].
In Hotten's 'List of Emigrants to America,' on page 440, we find the following:
'A list of the Inhabitants in and about the town of St. Michaels, Barbadoes, Anno Domini 1690, with their children, hired servants, prentices, bought servants and negroes.'
In this census, comprising a long list, appears:
'James Poke and wife, 6 children, 2 hired servants, and apprentices, 1 bought servant and 4 slaves.'
This James Poke seems to have been a man of some consequence, for he had two hired servants and apprentices, one bought servant, and four slaves, or negroes. Evidently he carried on some constructive work, as he had 'apprentices.' It is likely also that he later came on to America, but it is not certain that he was the James Pollock who died in Somerset County, Md., in 1727, reputed son of Robert and Magdalen. This Somerset James was married about 1700, and apparently was only about seven years of age at the time Barbadoes James had a wife and six children. This completes, as far as known, the line of James Polk (or Pollock), fourth son of Robert and Magdalen Polk."

The autobiography of Charles Wilson Peale has a reference to his catching up with his brother-in-law Robert Polk, in the house of William Polk of Accomac. This info was sent to me by a friend who found the autobiography some time ago. I need to get the specific title, page
number and quote from this autobiography. That statement in the autobiography, plus the deeds in PA., plus the wills, etc., prove, I believe, that Robert Polk was the son of James Pollock/Poalk of Hopewell Twp., PA., and strongly indicates that William Polk of Accomac was also the son of said James Pollock/Poalk of Hopewell Twp., Cumberland Co., PA. and his wife Margaret (was she a Lawry?). 
Pollock, James (I0922)
915 Research by Hikaru Kitabayashi, as of 2007

Edmund was born around 1315. He was probably not a first son, but was his father's only surviving son. It was from him, that the manor he owned in Christleton came to be called Cotton Edmund's, an indication of the respect with which he was held. He did, however, continue his grandfather Simon's feud with the local Abbey and there survives an order coming directly from the Prince of Wales (also at the time, the Earl of Chester) ordering to leave the Abbot's lands and cattle alone. What the family name of Edmund's descendants would have been, if he had lived as the lord of a different manor having a different place name attached to it, is unknowable. What can be said is that there are many other places in England known as Cotton, and many other families did as Edmund's ancestors had done, meaning that, barring a "non-paternal event", no Cotton's first Cotton was ever more than just an ordinary bloke.

Edmund's wife was Katherine. Her family name may be Brett or Brett de Dana, but this is first evidenced in a family tree appearing more than 250 years after she lived. One should not place a high reliance on this and, though not dismissing it entirely, refrain from including a family name for her in a Cotton family tree or, at least, should make some designation that this family name is only to be considered on a provisional basis.

Edmund had two children, William and Robert, probably both by Katherine. Both married heiresses in Stafford.

The coat of arms Edmund used was different from the one received by his father William I from the Grosvenors. As Edmund's oldest son William II inherited the lands which had originally come from the Grosvenors, the Grosvenor-based coat of arms were the ones he used until the ones received from the Grosvenors were ruled by King Richard II, himself, as representing a theft of the arms used by the Scrope family and ordered the Grosvenors to abandon their coat of arms and chose one completely different from what they had been using. With this, William II of Cotton Edmund's felt desirable for him and his children to adopt his wife, Agnes Ridware's coat of arms inherited from her highly respected Staffordshire family. Edmund's other coat of arms was used by his son Robert and Robert's descendants who possessed the Staffordshire manor of Cotton-under-Needwood. Robert's coat of arms and not that received from the Grosvenors was most likely the original coat of arms, though no surviving Cotton family today uses this coat of arms, but there are supposed branches of the Cotton family who revived and still use the old modified Grosvenor coat of arms and others who continued to use the Ridware coat of arms until the 19th century. Some branches of the Cottons of Cotton Edmund's, by the way, also inherited the right to quarter yet a fourth Cotton coat of arms from a completely unrelated Cotton family which daughtered out and whose heiress married a Venables whose heiress, in turn, married a Cotton of the Cotton Edmund's line of Cottons. 
Cotten, Edmund (I3955)
916 Research by Hikaru Kitabayashi, as of 2007

Humphrey Cotton was born between 1500 and 1510 as was his wife Anne Kynnardsley who was the child of Thomas Kynnardsley of Yoxley, co. Stafford, and his second wife Elizabeth. They had very little to start off with, but involved themselves with gusto in the land speculation going on from the 1530s onward unleashed by King Henry VIII's dissolution of the monasteries and take over of their lands. As a result of many shrewd investments and much buying and selling, they ended their lives successfully with almost as much land and certainly more money than Humphrey's great grandfather John II had at his death in 1478. Their daughters married well. Not only in England, but also among the upper classes of colonial Virginia, there were many individuals who could trace their descent to this couple (mostly through the marriage of one of their daughters with a Pudsey). They had only
one known son William Cotton V who will be covered under generation-10. For those who might be interested, Anne Kynnardsley has a descent from King William the Lion of Scotland.

Although DNA testing would be necessary to confirm things, I have reason to believe that the Cottons of Romford in Essex descend from Richard III and Joan St. John's son Nicholas. A contemporary (or, indeed, later) statement of being connected is missing, but the number of generations is complete as far the chronology goes and can be traced from the time of the Nicholas Cotton who was a son of Richard III to the end of the 17th century. It boils down to whether a representative of this line exists somewhere and, if existing, whether that individual would participate in the Cotton DNA project to make up for there being no document specifically stating who is who.

Richard Cotton III and Joan St. John had yet another son Francis who was involved in a land deal in Staffordshire with a cousin of his who was the son of John Cotton IV. Francis Cotton is very obscure, but I have reason to believe he was the ancestor of the Penkridge Cottons from whence I believe that the non-conformist Cottons of the 17th and 18th centuries who controlled the iron industry of northern England descend and who have numerous representatives in the United States. There is a will that is not part of the National Archives that is supposed to exist in Lichfield for a Richard Cotton of Penkridge who died in the 1550s which will have to be located and which might take us an important step further in the right direction. 
Cotten, Humphrey (I3941)
917 Research by Hikaru Kitabayashi, as of 2007

John Cotton (born around 1375) married Isabella Fauconer (variant spellings include Falkner). All published genealogies have her ancestry wrong. In a contemporary document, she states that she was the daughter of John Fauconer, the wife of John Cotton, and the mother of John Cotton. The documents of the time were in Latin and, therefore, the English version of her name could have been Elizabeth rather than Isabella, as Elizabeth sometimes appears under the guise of Isabella in Latin texts of this era. Sometimes, though, it appears in the Anglo-Latin form of Elizabeta. Both forms of this name, however, were used in English at the time concerned, so we shall never know 100% for sure if Isabella really were her real name in English. It is convenient, though, to call her that.

Isabella was yet another heiress, though this came after her brother William and William's daughter Elizabeth passed away in what appears to have been the 1420s. Through her, the Cottons acquired the manors of Thurcaston and Cayham in Leicestershire. These properties and the network of human relations they generated kept the junior branches of the Cotton family among her descendants from falling into utter obscurity and helped them to maintain their gentry status probably sometime in the 1340s.

Isabella's ancestry appears in many published sources, but they are all wrong and have been so from the late 15th century. I have managed to correct the worst mistakes in her family tree, but have not had enough time to verify my work against enough of the original sources to justify publishing it here, so I will not include any summary.

John and Isabella's oldest son was yet another John. Their second son was William. 
Cotten, John (I3951)
918 Research by Hikaru Kitabayashi, as of 2007

John Cotton II was married to Joan Venables whose name can be known only because she passed a right as a co-heiress of the vast Venables' feudal barony of Kinderton to her oldest son Richard Cotton on the death of her Venables nephew, she, herself, being already dead. A comparison of the inquisition post mortem's (the English medieval equivalent of death certificates for the wealthy or suspected wealthy) of Joan Venable's nephew and that of her son Richard's son prove that her husband's name was John, not Richard as usually appears in printed genealogies. (....)

2009 update to above info:

After I did my rather massive postings on Cotton Edmund's genealogy, I was able to come across additional primary source information that led me to revise my work a bit. John Cotton I of Hampstall Ridware was married to Isabella (or Elizabeth, which can represent the same name in late medieval documents) Fauconer. They had an older son by the name of John who married firstly Joan Venables and, by her, was the father of Richard Cotton. This Richard Cotton by Margaret his wife was the father of yet another Richard who had a son Thomas who died young and many daughters among whom the various Cotton properties were eventually divided. The older Richard Cotton's wife Margaret lived with her son Richard separately from John Cotton II in a different county after her husband's death. Joan Venables was dead by around 1450, after which her widowed husband John Cotton II married Joan Fitzherbert and had many children, including John Cotton III who married a rich heiress founded a line of Cottons in Suffolk and Norfolk that may still exist in Ireland. One of the youngest children of John Cotton II and Joan Fitzherbert was yet another Richard who was born when his father was quite old, being probably in his late 60s, and after his older half-brother Richard was dead. This younger Richard was never lord of a manor but was married off well and was well endowed with properties, enabling him to live comfortably and become the ancestor of the Crakemarsh Cottons.

John Cotton I and Isabella Fauconer had a second son William who married the Leicestershire heiress Mary Folville and became the ancestor of Sir Robert Bruce Cotton, whose book collection became the founding collection of the British Library.
Cotten, John II (I3949)
919 Research by Hikaru Kitabayashi, as of 2007

John Cotton III's youngest or second to the youngest son was Richard whom I will designate as Richard Cotton III. In the normal course of things, Richard Cotton III would not have had the money to marry, produce a family, and maintain his gentry status. However, the daughters of Alice Langham by her first husband, Thomas St. John, were the co-heiresses of their father. After John III and John II passed away, Richard III, being the baby, was still quite young and it is likely that he is the one who stayed with his mother. When his mother appears to have passed away several years afterwards, John IV and his wife Alice Langham must have felt a special responsibility for his upbringing, thus arranging a marriage for Richard III with Jane (or Joan) St. John, Alice Langham's daughter by her first husband and a minor co-heiress in her own right. Richard III also appears to be about the same age as his cousin Richard II's son Thomas III who, to help him out, gave him the use and profits for life of a manor belonging to him in Leicestershire for the life of Thomas III or that of that of Thomas III's wife, whichever lived the longest. Though Thomas III soon died, his young widow lived another generation, allowing Richard III and his wife to live the gentry life and to raise their children as such. It wasn't much but it allowed them to hang on to their status. Richard III's second wife was Alice Savage, apparently a granddaughter of the Sir John Savage who played an important role in the overthrow of King Richard III and the success of King Henry VII. Richard Cotton III had only one child by Alice Savage, a daughter, but this daughter's husband managed to acquire by purchase Richard Cotton III's lands shortly before his death. He had several sons by his (wife) Joan St. John, Humphrey, Nicholas and Francis.

2009 update to above info:

After I did my rather massive postings on Cotton Edmund's genealogy, I was able to come across additional primary source information that led me to revise my work a bit. John Cotton I of Hampstall Ridware was married to Isabella (or Elizabeth, which can represent the same name in late medieval documents) Fauconer. They had an older son by the name of John who married firstly Joan Venables and, by her, was the father of Richard Cotton. This Richard Cotton by Margaret his wife was the father of yet another Richard who had a son Thomas who died young and many daughters among whom the various Cotton properties were eventually divided. The older Richard Cotton's wife Margaret lived with her son Richard separately from John Cotton II in a different county after her husband's death. Joan Venables was dead by around 1450, after which her widowed husband John Cotton II married Joan Fitzherbert and had many children, including John Cotton III who married a rich heiress founded a line of Cottons in Suffolk and Norfolk that may still exist in Ireland. One of the youngest children of John Cotton II and Joan Fitzherbert was yet another Richard who was born when his father was quite old, being probably in his late 60s, and after his older half-brother Richard was dead. This younger Richard was never lord of a manor but was married off well and was well endowed with properties, enabling him to live comfortably and become the ancestor of the Crakemarsh Cottons. 
Cotten, Richard III (I3943)
920 Research by Hikaru Kitabayashi, as of 2007

Simon Cotton, supposed to be the son of William Cotton, though the earliest mention I have found so far of this first of many William Cottons to come is in a family tree drawn roughly 300 years after Simon Cotton's appearance in a Cheshire court case, standing accused of cattle rustling. His property (still not yet called Cotton Edmund's in the future) appears to have been solely in the Cheshire parish of Christleton, indicating that his ancestors had not significantly advanced themselves up the social ladder since the beginning of the Norman occupation of England. There is other evidence from a court case which took place shortly after the cattle-rustling case which makes it possible but not certain that he was the priest of the local church and feuding with the local abbot, his generation being the last in which married priests appear in rural areas of the British Isles before being rooted out completely by the Catholic Church, a process which the Church had already been working at for several hundred years. Whether he was a priest or not, he seems to have married a bit above his station to an unnamed daughter of Richard Grosvenor who was a sister of Robert Grosvenor II and Margery Grosvenor, the wife of a member of a Cheshire baronial family Philip de Terven (Ternen in the published source I used, but this is surely a misreading of Terven, or Tarvin, in modern English, as in medieval English handwriting v and n could be easily mistaken for each other and often were) who died without children. The Grosvenors, upon marriage, had given Margery lands as a marriage portion. These lands were later transferred to William Cotton, the son of Margery's unnamed sister and Simon Cotton, together with the Grosvenor Coat of arms, though changed slightly from that of the main line. Simon Cotton's son, William Cotton, was recognized as the heir of the Grosvenor estates should Robert II's son Robert III not produce any surviving child. He did, though, becoming the ancestor of the Grosvenor Dukes of Westminster who became the owners of a couple of hundred acres of downtown London and, by means of this, the richest private citizens today in Great Britain.
The DNA haplogroup for this Cotton family is I1b2a, members of which, according to Family Tree DNA, appear to have an origin in northern France, but are said to be mostly spread throughout northwestern Europe. Historically, in the case of this particular Cotton family, the most economical explanation would be that one of William the Conqueror's earl's soldiers was given a piece of land in Cheshire to settle and it is from him that future Cottons of this line can claim descent. In fact, in 1086 (20 years after the conquest) in the Doomsday Book, a common soldier with the Norman French name of Ranulph appears as a feudal sub-tenant of a Cheshire Baron called Robert Fitzhugh and held land in the Cheshire Parish of Christleton, land which was called Cotton and, to distinguish it from a neighboring manor also located in Cotton and belonging to the local abbey, Ranulph's land later became known as the manor of Cotton Edmund's. He is a possible ancestor, but it is exactly two hundred years until the first identifiable Cotton of this line of Cottons (the Cottons of Cotton Edmunds) makes an appearance in the records. Before that here and there throughout the 12th and early to mid-13th centuries, there are, indeed, other Cottons appearing in Cheshire and in neighboring areas of Cheshire, but their appearances are too scattered and information about either their origins or the lands they possessed is missing, thus not allowing us to build even a tentative family tree. Some of these individuals surely will have been ancestral to the Cotton Edmund's line and others just as surely not, but there is not enough data of the right type available to inspire confidence. As for Ranulph above, 200 years is indeed a long time and, in the mean time, many things could have happened, so he should never being included in anyone's family tree until further evidence appears which, unfortunately, is highly unlikely.
Cotten, Simon (I3959)
921 Research by Hikaru Kitabayashi, as of 2007

William Cotton, as mentioned above, inherited Grosvenor lands in the parish of Tarvin (or Tarven, as it often appears in medieval texts). His first wife was a Joan through whom it seems he acquired further lands in the parish of Waverton. It should be noted that Tarvin and Waverton were both neighboring parishes of Christleton and all three within commuting distance of the Earldom of Chester's administrative center, the borough that was known by the same name. He was well respected and appeared as a witness in numerous charters of the Earl of Chester's more important feudal tenants. His second wife whom he married when he must have been well past 40 was a woman by the name of Isabella. It appears that she remarried after his death. Edmund was his only known child by Joan (and not Isabella as often appears in published genealogies, some produced as early as 1600). 
Cotten, William (I3957)
922 Research by Hikaru Kitabayashi, as of 2007

William II was born in 1346 or thereabouts. This can be fixed fairly accurately as he appeared as a witness in the Scrope/Grosvenor trial in the mid-1380s. The statement he made is lost, but a record of his name and age remains. In the 1370s, he married a rich Staffordshire heiress, Agnes de Ridware, thus bring quite substantial properties (Hampstall-Ridware in Staffordshire, and Boyleston is Derbyshire) into Cotton hands, properties that allowed his and her descendants to play leading roles in Staffordshire for three generations. He probably died in the 1390s. Before he died, though, he made the necessary legal arrangements so that his own properties (as opposed to those he held by right of his wife) were safely disposed for the benefit of his heirs. His wife lived until 1435, dying a very old woman for her times, being over 75 and probably close to 80 when she passed away. Agnes and her husband had only one child, John, who may be identified from contemporary records. Genealogies appearing 200 years later, however, sometimes give them a daughter, too, which may or may not be right.

William's brother Robert married a less wealthy heiress who brought him the manor of Cotton-under-Needwood less than 10 miles from his brother's wife's estates. Robert's descendants daughtered out in the third generation so his line will not be dealt with further, but many quite interesting and well-known people number among his descendants, including the author of "The Anatomy of Melancholy", the first attempt by just about anyone in any language to seriously and thoroughly describe the insidious disease of depression which so many people silently and heroically suffer from. 
Cotten, William II (I3953)
923 Research by Hikaru Kitabayashi, as of 2007:

Walter Cotton married Elizabeth Younge of Caynton a distant cousin of his mother coming from a Shropshire family of distinction. Elizabeth Younge's medieval ancestry overlaps in part with that of her mother-in-law and this marriage, as well as the marriage with her mother-in-law, represented the fact that the new Cotton family line Humphrey Cotton and his wife Agnes Kynnardsley had worked so hard to make rich had fully arrived and were now considered an old family. Their heir was William Cotton VI. They also had several daughters who married respectably, one to a member of parliament. This particular daughter, though, was something of a revolutionary and had rather active republican sympathies.

William Cotton V and Elizabeth Mallory's second son, Thomas Cotton IV was given the family estates in Burntwood, a parish of Staffordshire, a fact which enabled him and some of his descendants to maintain their gentry status for three generations. This division of estates was not a Cotton tradition, but did appear often in Mallory history. One can see the influence of Elizabeth Mallory at work. Thomas Cotton IV's wife was Frances. He had one son, Thomas Cotton V, who inherited Burnwood (co. Stafford) and possibly another son William Cotton VII of Wolverhampton. 
Cotten, Walter (I3937)
924 Research by Hikaru Kitabayashi, as of 2007:

Walter Cotton of generation-10's son and heir William Cotton VI married Anne Colt, the daughter and eventually sole heiress of a very rich ironmonger, Thomas Colt, of Rotherham in Yorkshire. Their oldest son was Rowland, named after Sir Rowland Cotton, a prominent Cotton who certainly wasn't related but whom they thought should be. They had a middle son by the name of Thomas Cotton VI. Their youngest son was Walter Cotton II (born 1639) who was a small child when his father passed away. With the influence of Elizabeth Mallory having disappeared with her death, the Cottons reverted to their normal pattern of putting everything into the first son and letting younger sons do what they wanted as long as they didn't use up a significant amount of family resources in doing so. Anne lived far longer than her husband and remarried, but remained a good manager of family resources.

Thomas Cotton V married a Dorothy Russell in Penkridge, co. Staffordshire. He had four surviving sons, William Cotton VIII, Walter Cotton III, Thomas Cotton VII, and Humphrey Cotton II, all of whom disappear from the record by end of the 17th century. If any of them had any descendants, they disappeared into the awful 18th century.

William Cotton VII of Wolverhampton had a large family in the 1630s and 1640s. One of his sons was Thomas Cotton VIII and another Walter Cotton IV. From the mid-1650s, this family too completely disappears from the record in England. 
Cotten, William VI (I3935)
925 Research by Hikaru Kitabayashi, as of 2007:

William Cotton V married Elizabeth Mallory, one of the younger daughters of Sir Richard Mallory, the Lord Mayor of London, and of Anne Smith who circumstantial evidence points to as a sister of the treasury official Sir Clement Smith, a man who married the sister of King Edward VI's mother Jane Seymour. She was a great granddaughter of Thomas Mallory of Papworth St Agnes and through him of numerous ancestors who shaped English history in the middle ages. They had two sons, Walter the older one and Thomas Cotton IV the younger one. 
Cotten, William V (I3939)
926 Research by Hikaru Kitabayashi,as of 2007

Walter Cotton II son of William Cotton VI, by means of an analysis of Virginia colonial militia records and a comparison of wills and parish records can be shown to have been the Walter Cotton of Surry County, Virginia. Nowhere is it stated that he is his father's son, but the combination of evidence interlocks well enough that this is the only logical conclusion. He married a woman by the name of Elizabeth. I thought she might be a Stuckley and wish she were because that might a tracable family, but I now think it is highly doubtful we will ever know what her family name was. They had two sons, William of Prince Edward County and Thomas II of Surry and Suffolk Counties, all of which are counties in Virginia. Both sons left too many male-line descendants in the United States to keep track of. If the Cotton DNA study can be considered indicative, perhaps as many as one fifth of all Cottons worldwide, black, white, or yellow, belong to this lineage or to the related Leicestershire Cotton lineage. Much about this particular family has appeared on the internet in recent years, so I shall not carry it any further.

What happened to Walter IV son of William Cotton VII of Wolverhampton is completely unknown, but his brother Thomas Cotton VIII is most likely to have been the Thomas Cotton who immigrated to Virginia and who made "his cousin" Thomas Cotton, the husband of his step-daughter Jane Hyde and the son of Walter Cotton II and Elizabeth, his heir. The only other Thomas available who fits available data is the Thomas Cotton VII who was the son of Thomas Cotton V of Burntwood but, but a careful analysis of available data made it appear less like to have been a match chronologically when considering the year-of-birth range suggested by the data milked from the Virginia militia lists, leaving Thomas Cotton VIII (of Wolverhampton) as the better choice.

baptized 14 Nov. 1639. In Virginia by 1676 when he received a pardon for his role in Bacon's Rebellion. In 1711 he appears in court to swear he came from England to Virginia as a free man and, thus, claim 50 acres due to him for paying his own passage. His last mention in colonial records is later in the same year. Wife Elizabeth.

BIRTH: 1643, Wolverhampton, Stafford, ENG [2193] DEATH: UNKNOWN
BAPTISM: 1 May 1643, Wolverhampton, co. Stafford, Registers [41.85] [2194]
EVENT: Land Patent: 20 Oct 1688, Walter Cotton and Thomas Cotton were granted a patent for 314 acres in the upper parish of Surry County for the transportation of seven persons [VA Patents 7:670] EVENT: Land Patent: 16 Jul 16 9 6, "While no record seems to have been made of it, we know that this land was at some point, on 16 July 1696, divided into two equal parts" ref. Dr. Thompson research for Hikaru Kitabayashi
EVENT: Land Patent: 3 Nov 1702, Walter Cotton of Southwark Parish sold his 157 acres for 1000 lbs. tobacco and 100 lbs. pork to one John Johnson of the same parish ; he signed by mark, his wife Elizabeth signed her name [Surry Co.]
EVENT: Court Records: 1 Mar 1691, Walter & Thomas Cotten served on a petit jury [Surry Co. Court Orders 5:32, 6:167]
EVENT: Court Records: 15 Aug 1711, Walter Cotten had judgment against William Cook, admin. c.t.a. of the will of John Cook, for 20 shillings [Surry Co. Court Orders 6:167]
from the web : 1687-- Militia 1688--land grant Surry 1688--Surry tithables 1694--Surry tithables 1698--Surry Tithables 1718--listed in will of Thomas Cotten, who calls Thomas Cotten, son of Walter and Elizabeth, his cousin. (A cousin, William , is also listed. This could be another son of Walter.) Lives next to John Steward at Otterdam Swamp in 1705, Surry. 1685, 1702,
Tithable in Surry 
Cotten, Walter II (I1004)
927 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Rushing, Keith (I2996)
928 Rev War Pension Appli #R2407 dated 15 dec 1832. Affidavit dated 26 feb 1846 of
his widow, Martha Cox and affidavit dated 23 may 1853 by Aaron Cox, adm of
Martha Cox lists all of Moses and Martha's children. (Names listed: Aaron Cox, 63 years old,
Gatsey, a daughter, 60 years old, John, 57 years old, Henry, 54 years old, Rebecca,
50 years old, Malinda, 47 years old, and Robert Cox, 44 years old.)

From the GA Senate:

SR 586 - Moses Cox, James Ransome Avant - commemorating
Hill, Jack (4th)
Status Summary SC: HC: FR: 02/22/00 LA: 02/22/00 S - Passed/Adopted

First Reader Summary
A resolution commemorating Moses Cox and James Ransome Avant; and for other purposes.

Page Numbers: 1

Senate Action House
2/22/00 Read 1st time
2/22/00 Passed/Adopted
Version by LC Number
LC 8 3997 S - Passed/Adopted

SR 586 LC 8 3997


1- 1 Commemorating Moses Cox and James Ransome Avant; and for
1- 2 other purposes.

1- 3 WHEREAS, Moses Cox was born in North Carolina on May 6,
1- 4 1756, and he served in the Revolutionary War with the North
1- 5 Carolina Militia as a Scout for over three years; and

1- 6 WHEREAS, family records indicate that he fought at the
1- 7 Battle of Moores Creek Bridge (NC), Battle of Brier Creek
1- 8 (GA), Battle of Catawba (NC), Gates Defeat (SC) where he was
1- 9 wounded in the right forearm, Wilmington (NC), Fayetteville
1-10 (NC), and Camden (SC); and

1-11 WHEREAS, he married Martha Patsy Avant, came by wagon train
1-12 to Washington County, Georgia, and established a homestead
1-13 on 400 acres of pioneer bounty land where a community called
1-14 Coxtown developed and was later named Oconee; and

1-15 WHEREAS, he also served in the War of 1812 as a Lieutenant
1-16 in the 98th District of the Georgia Militia from Washington
1-17 County, and he died at home on December 19, 1845, and was
1-18 buried in the family cemetery; and

1-19 WHEREAS, James Ransome Avant married Lucretia Cox, a
1-20 granddaughter of Moses and Martha Cox, and he served as a
1-21 private in Company B, 12th Battalion Georgia Light
1-22 Artillery, Confederate States Army, died in 1876, and was
1-23 buried in the family cemetery; and

1-24 WHEREAS, these two veterans will be honored on March 18,
1-25 2000, by family, friends, and guests gathering at the
1-26 Avant-Cox-Pierce Cemetery off Coxtown Road in Oconee,
1-27 Washington County, Georgia.

1-29 commemorates Moses Cox, a Revolutionary War soldier, and
1-30 James Ransome Avant, a Civil War soldier, who are buried at
1-31 the Avant-Cox-Pierce Family Cemetery.

1-32 BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Secretary of the Senate is
1-33 authorized and directed to transmit an appropriate copy of
1-34 this resolution to the family of Moses Cox and James Ransome
1-35 Avant.

Cox, Moses (I0125)
929 Rev War soldier. Rec'd grant of land in Washington Co. GA for Rev War services in 1784. Pvt - GA Continental Line.

from: McCall, Mrs. Howard H.
Roster of Revolutionary Soldiers in Georgia. Vol. III. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004.

p. 13: "Joseph Avant, d 1798 Washington, GA. Enlisted in Col. George Mathew's VA Reg., was at Germantown and Brandywine. Married Melinda Davis."

Was in Cumberland Co., NC in 1776:

Cumberland Co., NC Deed Book 7, p. 63:

"10 December 1776 - Bill of Sale in which Peter Avent, of the State of NC, Co. of Cumberland, sells to Joseph Avent, of the same county and State..."

In GA by 1782 (also proof that Peter is his father):

Ibid., August, 1782 -

Power of Attorney from Joseph Avent, "of the State of Georgia..." appointing his friend William Rand to recover the estate he purchased of " father, Peter Avent, late of the county of Northampton, State of NC" as by a bill of sale dated in Cumberland Co., NC, 10th Dec 1776..."

"...Let us now investigate Sarah “Sallie” Avent, alleged wife of old John Spurlock. The same source that gave “Sallie Aven” as the wife of old John also said she was born in 1761 and died 1846 (date ?) and that she married John in Washington County, Ga. In 1791. However, the “Sari” who was a daughter of Joseph Avent was born 24 Aug 1768. (date ?) The Avent Gen Form message board informs us that Joseph Avent lived in 1781 in Washington County., Ga. Among his children was a daughter Sari Elephair Avent and a son Ransom. Ransom Davis Avent born in the 1760s in North Carolina died 1849 in Washington County. His son Ransom Taylor Avent born 18 Feb 1810 in Washington, died 12 Sept 1882 in Bibb County, Georgia. Other sons of Joseph were John, William, James and Joseph. William Avent, age 42, was listed on the 1850 Barbour census on the same page as a Spurlock. The year of birth of Sally (Avent) Spurlock makes a big difference in determining whether Ransom born 1807 could have been her son - 1768 possible, 1761 less likely. Aven/Avent/Avant, not a real common surname, pops into Spurlock connections quite frequently."

5/22/1787 served on the first grand jury of Washington Co., GA 
Avent, Joseph (I0060)
930 Revolutionary service: Pierce's Register APPENDIX page 598: "A List of Capt. Joshua Bowman's Company, Feb 19 1778", "Name, when inlisted": Wm. Brantley, 1776.

Rev War service:

from the DAR:

Birth: 19 Apr 1742
Service: NC
Rank: Pvt
Death: NC 15 Oct 1823
Patriot Pensioned: No
Widow Pensioned: No
Children Pensioned: No
Heirs Pensioned: No
Spouse: (2) Mary Ann Tomlinson

1st (Moore's/Nash's/Clark's) North Carolina Regiment [1775-1780]
Captured at Charlestown May 1780

1st North Carolina
Division: Third
Brigade: NC
History: Organized Fall 1776 at Salisbury and Wilmington, NC.

(Washington’s army was at Valley Forge from 19 Dec 1777 through 19 Jun 1778, so Wm Brantley was at Valley Forge).

Entered Valley Forge with 1412 men assigned and 905 fit for duty. This is the combined brigade. Left Valley Forge in June 1778 with 658 assigned 310 fit for duty.

Previous engagements: Southern highlands, defense of Philadelphia, Philadelphia-Monmouth

Staff Officers

Company Officers

Oaths of Allegiance
Valley Forge, 1778 - Page 6

On February 3, 1778, Congress, having taken into consideration the report of the special committee appointed to devise effectual means to prevent persons disaffected to the interest of the United States from being employed in any of the important offices thereof, resolved, That every officer who held or should thereafter hold a commission or office from Congress, should subscribe the oath or affirmation of allegiance. These oaths or affirmations the commander-in-chief or any major or brigadier-general was authorized and directed to administer to all officers of the army or of any of the departments thereof. Those mentioned in the following list (with a few exceptions) took the oath at Valley Forge in the spring of '78 before that encampment was broke, and who undoubtedly were members of the army actually in camp at Valley Forge the ever memorable winter of '77-'78.

Source: "The Army and Navy of the United States 1776-1891", George Barrie Publisher, Philadelphia, 1890

(many names...)
Joshua Bowman, captain 1st N. C. regiment.
Staff Officers
Surgeon Mate
Quartermaster Sergeant
Sergeant Major JOSEPH CONGER
Fife Major

1st NC
[? & McIntosh's Bde.] 21 May 1777 3 Jan 1778 March from North Carolina to New Jersey †Original: LOC #865. Online Catalog under: John Brown. Call Number: MMC. Microfilm: 16,892. NC-01-02.
1st NC
[North Carolina Bde.] 5 Jul 1778 27 Aug 1778 Quibbletown, Springfield, Ward Session, Slotterdam, Paramus, Kakiate, King's Ferry, Croton River, Wrights Mill,White Plains

See "Roster of NC Troops in the Revolution", DAR, 1932. DAR and SAR both accept that William Brantley of Chatham Co., husband of Mary Tomlinson was Rev War vet. Webmaster has found at least 2 other William Brantleys living in NC during Rev War and has not found proof of which one served in Revolution.

Name: William BRANTLEY
Given Name: William
Surname: Brantley
Sex: M
Birth: 19 Apr 1742 in Chatham Co, NC
Death: 16 Oct 1823 in Chatham Co, NC
Burial: William Brantley Burial Ground
REFN: 12736

The old burial ground in just in front of William Brantley's old home which was still standing in 1941. It is located on the McIver farm just off the road behind the Griffin place between Rocky River and Pittsboro.

Location: Center Township. 0.25 mile east of SR 1010, Pittsboro--Goldston Road, 0.7 mile north of Rocky River

Coordinates: 35d 40m 05.0s N; 79d 13m 50.0s W

In 1991 Edwin and Lemuel Burns reported three unmarked graves on McIver property, reportedly the site of Brantley family plot. In 2004, E. M. Konczak sent photographs and sketch maps of Brantley/Rowe cemetery with three inscribed stones and other illegible stones. Cemetery site has not been visited by CCHA.

Wm. Brantley was granted 640 acres on Rocky River in Chatham Co. 7/1/1779 for service in the Revolution. ("Brooks and Related Families")?? (Brantley purchased that land - I've seen no indication he rec'd land for Rev War service. SFA)

He was a juror 1784. CHATHAM COUNTY, NC -

BIBLES - William Brantley Famly Bible ------ -------- ¤¤¤¤¤¤-------------- Family Records from Bible of William Brantley of
Chatham Co., NC Bible now in possession of Mrs. Henry London Burns of Apex, NC (1936)
William Brantley married Mary Tomlinson August 13 , 1781
Elizabeth Brantley married Henry Burns December 23, 1834
John and Nancy Brantley were married August 19, 1819
Stephen P. Brantley was born Oct. 23, 1820
William Brantley was born Feb. 10, 1822
George L. Brantley was born April 1, 1824
Sarah A. Brantley was born Dec. 1, 1826
Mary M. Brantley was born March 22, 1828
William Brantley was born April 19, 1742
Mary Brantley w as born Feb 15, 1767
William Brantley, Jr. was born Jan. 23, 1787
Joseph Brantley was born April 23, 1789
Lewis Brantley was born June 27, 1800
Simon Brantley was born May 18, 1804
Martha Brantley was born August 4, 1782
Sarah Brantley was born Nov. 5, 1784
Mary Brantley was born Nov. 5, 1791
Hannah Brantley was born March 5, 1794
Mahala H, Brantley was born Marc h 3, 1796
Cather ine Brantley was born July 24, 1798
Margaret Brantley was born May 9, 1807
Elizabeth Brantley was born May 2, 1807 (sic)
William Brantley Sr. died Oct. 16, 1823 he was 81 years old.
Mary Brantley, his wife died Feb. 1, 1834 in her 67th year.
Blake Brantley died June 19, 1823 in his 50th year.
Joseph Brantley died Jan, 16, 1824
Vivian Brantley died August 2, 1823
Selania Brantley died Oct. 1823

[The names are copied as they appear in the old Bible. The birth dates of William Brantley's chil dren by a previous marriage, Blake, John and Hester, wife of John White are not given]

These were noted as NC Bible Record, Book A 1788 -1877 and t he # given on the above record is 400.1.1.96

from the web: Source is Bible Record Of William & Mary (Tomlinson) Brantley It is reportedly in possession of Mrs E. C. Winchester of Monroe NC (198 2) Source is also book "Brooks and Kindred Families" his will: William Brantly Will - 9 April 1822 Chatham Co., Wills - Vol. B. pg. 374 (105-106) NC State Archives fil m # C022.80001

William Brantly Will - 9 April 1822
Chatham Co., Wills - Vol. B. pg. 374 (105-106)
NC State Archives film # C022.80001

In the name of God amen, I William Brantly Senr. of Chatham County and State of North Carolina, being of sound and perfect mind and memory (blessed be God) do this ninth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty two make and ordain this my last will and Testament.

First I recommend my Soul to Almighty God and my body to be decently buried hoping through the merits of Christ for a blessed Resurrection and as for such worldly goods as it hath pleased Almighty God to bestow on me I give and bequeath in the following manner:

First all and every thing left on my plantation at my decease to go the use and benefit of my beloved wife - all my land, Negroes and their Increase and stock of every kind, so too all the crops, Household and Kitchen furniture with the other stuff and tools on the plantation, including everything that I possess, except such part of my land or negroes my Executors may see cause to sell to pay my Just debts and funeral expenses, during her natural life, and after her death all the property left to be equally divided between my sons William Brantly, John Brantly, Lewis Brantly, & Simeon Brantly, and my Daughters Caty Brantly, Peggy Brantly, Patty Brantly and Betsey Brantly for them to have it forever.

As for my other children I have given them all the Estate that I ever intended for them which they have already got in possession.

And I hereby make and ordain my sons william and John Brantly Executors and my beloved wife Polly Brantly Executrix of this my last Will and Testament, revoking all others.

In witness thereof I the said William Brantly Sen'r hereunto set my hand and seal the day and year above written Signed and acknowledged William Brantly {seal} In the presence of Thos Clegg, Biddy Clegg

Proved at November Term 1823 and then John Brantly Ext'r therein named qualified.

"It says here that Tomlinson was Williams Second wife and the number of Brantly children are 17. I am not familiar with this line so You would probably be able to judge better which children listed are Williams and if any that are listed belonged to a relative."

Nash Co. Wm Brantley:
Brantley, William
Birth Date: 1800
Birth Place: Nash co., NC
Marriage Place: Nash co., NC
Spouse: Sarah, b. 1810
Children: Frances, Thomas, Virginia, others
Residence: Winstead, Nash co., NC
Occupation: Farm Laborer


Brantley, William
Birth Date: 1810
Birth Place: North Carolina
Marriage Place: Nash co., NC
Spouse: Sarah, b. 1816
Death Date:
Residence: Nash co., NC


William R Brantley
Spouse: Martha Fulton
Parents: Wiley Brantley ,
Birth Place: Nash County, NC
Birth Date: 1811
Marriage Date: 14 January 1828

another Wm Brantley:
William Brantley
Gender: male
Birth Place: NC
Birth Year: 1805
Spouse Name: Mahala Page
Birth Place: VA
Spouse Birth Year: 1815
Year: 1834
Marriage State: IN
Number Pages: 1

Halifax Wm Brantley:

ID: I595780034
Name: William BRANTLEY
Given Name: William
Surname: Brantley
Sex: M
Birth: 1726 in Halifax Co. North Carolina 1 2 3
REFN: 810

Father: James BRANTLEY b: Abt. 1695
Mother: Ruth UNKNOWN b: Abt. 1695

John's land was SW of Pittsboro, North Carlina and on the south side of Rocky River, going south toward Goldston. In 1991 it is the property of Hoyle McIver. On this site was the home of John and Hannah, their son William's home and the family cemetery. The only tombstones now do not show Brantley names but Williams daughter Mary married John Rowe and his tombstone is there.  
Brantley, William (I0963)
931 Richard FitzAlan[1][2][3]

b. 03 Feb 1266/7
d. 09 Mar 1301/2
bur. Haughmond Abbey, Upton Magna, Shropshire

m. before 1285 Alice of Saluzzo.[4] Issue:
Edmund FitzAlan, 9th Earl of Arundel.
Alice m. Stephen de Segrave, 3rd Lord Segrave.
Margaret m. William le Botiller[6]
Eleanor m. Henry de Percy, 1st Baron Percy

1272–1302: Earl of Arundel[7][8]
Feudal Lord of Clun and Oswaldestre
fought in Welsh Wars, 1288; in Gascony 1295-97; and in Scottish Wars, 1289-1300.

Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson Vol. II page 599
RICHARD FITZ ALAN (or DE ARUNDEL [Footnote 25] Earl Richard Fitz Alan (FitzAlan) above, his father and grandfather all employed the surname Fitz Alan . In the 1270's, Earl Richard's father was styled John "Fitz Alan de Arundel" in several records [see C.P.R. 1272-1281 (1901): 11, 96, 161, 331]. In 1291 Earl Richard received a grant addressed to him as "Richard de Arundel, Earl of Arundel" [see C.P. 1 (1910): 241]. In the same period, 1291-1302, Earl Richard's brother, John, was likewise styled John de Arundel [see Rees Cartulary of Haughmond Abbey (1985): 227]. Following Earl Richard's death in 1302, the family dropped the surname Fitz Alan in favor of de Arundel (or simply Arundel). The last known use of the name Fitz Alan by any member of this family dates c.1312-3, when Earl Richard's son, Edmund, brought a writ as "Edmund Fitz Alan" [see Year Books of Edward III 12 (Rolls Ser. 31b) (1905): 518-521]. Thereafter, all further references to this family employ the surname Arundel to the complete exclusion of the surname Fitz Alan. Specifically, Earl Richard's son Edmund (died 1326), both of his brothers, two of his sons and all four of his grandsons all employed the Arundel surname. Edmund's sister Alice is likewise styled "de Arundel" in an ancient Segrave Family ped. VCH Surrey 1 (1902): 348, footnote 1 observes that Richard's son and heir, Edmund, is "commonly called Fitz Alan but the real designation of the family was then de Arundel." Nicholas, a well known antiquarian, states: "This family presents a singular instance of adopting the name of their title as the surname of the family, for after the marriage of John Fitz-Alan, Lord of Clun, with Isabel, the sister and co-heir of Hugh D'Albini, Earl of Arundel, all the descendants called themselves Arundel instead of Fitz-Alan" [see Nicolas Testamenta Vetusta 1 (1826): 105]. "J.G.N." in Gentleman's magazine 103 Oxfordshire, etc., .......

Royal Ancestry by D. Richardson Vol. IV p. 553
Weis, F.L. (n.d.). Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis, (Lines: 16B-29, 28-31, 77-31,77-32). n.p.
Medieval Lands. [9]
Weis, F.L. (1991). The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, (4th ed). Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Some corrections and additions to the Complete Peerage: Volume 1: Arundel
"He [Richard Fitz Alan, later Earl of Arundel (d.1301/2)] m., before 1285, (when he was but 18) Alasia, da. of Tommaso I, MARQUIS OF SALUZZO in Piedmont [1244-99], by Luisa, da. of Giorgio, MARQUIS OF CEVA. She d. 25 Sep. 1292, and was bur. at Todingham Priory. He d. 9 Mar. 1301/2, in his 36th year, and was bur. with his ancestors."
"The bodies of both Richard and Alesia were at Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, by 1341, when provision was made for 12 candles to burn in the church of Haughmond around their tombs [Una Rees, ed., The Cartulary of Haughmond Abbey, p.227 (1985)]"

? Weis, F.L. (n.d.). Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis, (Lines: 16B-29, 28-31, 77-31,77-32). n.p.
? Medieval Lands.
? Weis, F.L. (1991). The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, (4th ed). Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
? a.k.a Alesia di Saluzzo, dau Thomas I of Saluzzo in Italy
? priest
? EN: Butler
? after attaining majority in 1289 became Earl of Arundel, summoned to Parliament as such
? 7th Earl of Arundel per Ancestral Roots
FitzAlan, 8th Earl Arundel, Lord of Clun and Oswestry in the Welsh Marches Richard (I4681)
932 Richard Hide/Hyde b: 1717 in Southwark Parish, Surry County, VA d: May 1762 Will probated May 1762 in Northampton County, NC m. by 1751 Amelia. See also Mildred Avent b: abt 1746 in Northampton County, NC d: 1795. And yet "Milly" Hyde's will probated May 1795 in Halifax County, North Carolina

IGI Record: Richard Hyde born about 1717 Southward (sic) Parish, Surry Co, Virginia-Father: Richard Hyde; Mother: Mary Cotton
IGI Record: Mildred Avent born about 1746 Northampton County, North Carolina-Father: William Avent Mother: Sarah Massey
(If this is correct, Mildred Avent could not have been the biological mother of the children listed herein, as IGI records record their birth from about 1745-1759, although the records say the parents were "Richard Hyde IV and Mildred, they also say of Northampton County, North Carolina." I believe that the information used for these birth records was after the fact, as it seems the children were actually born in Brunswick County, Virginia based on Richard's location in the court/land records below.)

IGI Record: Mildred Avent married about 1767 Richard Hyde of Northampton County, North Carolina (If this is the same Richard Hyde, then the date is obviously wrong on this since Richard died in 1762)  
Avent, Mildred (I0078)
933 Richard Minter born 1580 in England. He married Anna., who was also born in
England. Richard and Anna arrived in Virginia from England on the ship
Margaret and John in 1620. They were living in Elizabeth City in 1623.
Richard and Anna had two boys, Edward (b.1608) and John (b.?). Both boys
were born in England.
Edward had a land grant, James City Co., adj. Jeremiah Clements, on
upper Chippoaks Creek, later to become Surry County. Edward and his wife
Grace had four children: Jonathan, Ruth, Annie, and Edward.
Jonathan Minter's child was Anthony Minter (b.1685-d.1753) of Caroline
County, Virginia.

Virginia Vital Records #1, 1600s-1800s, Virginia Land
Records, Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents, page 582. Found on Genealogy

(233) EDWARD MINTER, 250 acres in the county of James, over against Dancing
Point, on the south side of the river, and on the east side of a small creek
called Sunken Marsh Creek, and extending along the bank of the river -- due
said Edward Minter, as son and heir of his father RICHARD MINTER,
deceased -- 50 acres due the said Rich'd Minter for his personal adventure,
50 for the personal adventure of his wife ANNA MINTER (mother of said
Edward) and 150 for the transportation of his two sons EDWARD and JOHN
MINTER, and one servant William Browne. By West, July 22nd 1635. 
Minter, Richard (I1552)
934 Richard Smith came to Virginia in the London Merchant, March 1619/20. He was living at Pasbehaighs, James City (adjaent to Jamestown), at the time of the census, 1623/2 4 and the muster, 1624/25. Soon, however, he moved to the Eastern Shore , where he had been granted, 18 November 1618, 200 acres in Accawmack County, 23 September 1639. The area where he resided became Northampton County and in his will, proved 31 January 1659/60, he mentioned 500 acres which he divised to his daughter Alice Smith and 450 acres left to his daughter Susan Smith. Since he devised to his daughter Alice by her maiden surname, Smith, and also referred to Nathaniel Bradford as his son-in-law, i t seems clear Richard Smith had two wives, both dead when he wrote his will, one of whom was the mother of Alice and probably of Susan, and one who was a widow Bradford, mother of Nathaniel Bradford. Susan Smith was left "the linen which was her mother's". Mentions dau. Alice in deed of sale to Henry Eldridge of 400 a. between Ochannock Creek and Mussatocks Co. Smith, Richard (I0194)
935 Richard was born about 1130 to Gilbert Fitz Gilbert and "Isabel of Meulan", former mistress of Henry I King of England and daughter of Robert of Meulan[1] - Robert de Beaumont-le-Roger Comte de Meulan (Earl of Leicester) - and his wife Isabelle de Vermandois.[2]

He succeeded his father in 1148 or 1149 as Earl of Pembroke.[2] He was about eighteen when his father died and he inherited the title Earl of Pembroke, but it's probable that it wasn't recognized at Henry II's coronation. Henry II stripped him of the title in 1154 for siding with Stephen I against Matilda.[citation needed] "On the accession of King Henry II in 1154," the King refused to acknowledge Richard as earl "and took the lordship of Pembroke into his own hands."[1]

Richard saw an opportunity to reverse his bad fortune when he met Dermot MacMurrough (Irish: Diarmaid Mac Murchadha ), King of Leinster.[citation needed] "In Autumn 1167 he came to an agreement with Dermot MacMurrough... for the earl's assistance with an army, he could have Eve, Dermot's eldest daughter in marriage and the succession to Leinster."[1]

Richard Fitz Gilbert married Eve of Leinster at Waterford, Ireland about 26 August 1170, daughter of Dermot by Mor, daughter of Muirchertach Ua Tuathail.[1][3]

Richard and Eve, also written as Aoife, had two children:[2]
Gilbert,[1] who "succeeded his father in 1176 as Earl of Pembroke, but was never invested with the earldom."[2]
Isabel, married William Marshal[1] in London August 1189. William "was invested as Earl of Pembroke 27 May 1199 by King John."[2]
"Isabel de Clare, 4th Countess of Pembroke (d.1220), 1185-1220: Countess of Pembroke in her own right (at the death of her brother)"[citation needed]
"Earl Richard had two illegitimate children"[2] by an "unknown wife or mistress":[1]
Basilia[4] ([unnamed] daughter), said to have married Robert de Quincy[1] Constable of Leinster, in 1171.[2][5]
Aline,[2] or Aliva (see below),[6] married William Fitz Maurice, Baron of Naas, co. Kildare in 1174,[1] son of Maurice FitzGerald[7]
"From 1172 onwards, he was styled Earl of Striguil, Chepstow and Pembroke."[1] Richard's contemporaries called him the Earl of Striguil, which is where he had a fortress. It's now called Chepstow.[8]

In 1173 Richard Strongbow and Raymond le Gross are made Lord Wardens of Ireland. [9]

He died about 20 April 1176 and was buried in the Church of the Holy Trinity (Christ Church), Dublin, Ireland. His widow, Eve, was living in 1187. At her death, she was buried in Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire, Wales where her husband's father Gilbert was buried.[1]

Robert of Torigny records the death in 1176 of "Richardus comes de Streguel filius comitis Gisleberti" leaving "parvulum filium ex filia regis Duvelinæ"[1450]. The Annales Cambriæ record the death in 1175 of "comes Ricardus filius Gilberti", another passage recording his death in Ireland in 1177 and his burial "apud Dulin"[1451].[2]

See addtional information about his burial below.
Titles, etc.
Richard FitzGilbert's titles:
2nd Earl of Pembroke[1] (Wales)
"The earldom of Pembroke was first granted by King Stephen in 1138 to Gilbert de Clare. On the death of the first earl’s infant grandson Gilbert de Clare in [1185/86], the right to the earldom passed to his sister, but it was not until 1199 that her husband William Marshal was invested as Earl of Pembroke."[10]
"Earl of Striguil [Wales], of Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Hinxworth, Hertfordshire, etc." His father, Gilbert, had inherited the barony of Chepstow, Monmouthshire and the manor of Hinxworth, Hertfordshire from Walter Fitz Richard (Gilbert's uncle).[1] "Gilbert de Clare (died 1148), son of Gilbert Fitz-Richard,... possessed the Lordship of Strigul (Estrighoiel, in Domesday Book), the modern Chepstow.[11]
Seigneur of Bienfaite and Orbec (Normandy)[1]
Justiciar of Ireland[1]
Lord of Netherwent
"He [[[Clare-569|Gilbert]]] inherited the estates of his paternal uncles Roger de Clare (after 1131, in the baronies of Bienfaite and Orbec, Normandy) and Walter de Clare (in 1138, as lord of Nether Gwent with the castle of Strigoil, later known as Chepstow)"[12]
Lord of Goodrich Castle[citation needed]
titles from categories:
Irish History, Kingdom of Leinster[13]
"In 1170, Aífe... married Richard FitzGilbert de Clare, the Anglo-Norman baron better known as Strongbow. Their union fulfilled one half of the promise made by [Diarmait] Mac Murchada in return for Strongbow's help in regaining his lost kingdom of Leinster. Strongbow's succession to that kingship upon Mac Murchada's death in 1171 fulfilled the other half."[14]
Hiberno-Normans, Irish Nobility
Governors of Ireland[citation needed]
called 'Strongbow' (see below)
and was known historically as the Norman Conqueror of Ireland[citation needed]
This profile listed "Manor of Westley", but more research is needed to place it in his hands. The History and Antiquities of Suffolk quoted below begins the entry for Westley with "in the time of Henry II",[15] and Henry II had taken "the lordship of Pembroke into his own hands",[1] which would imply Richard did not hold Westley either. While the Richard de Clare referenced is certainly this Richard, Aymer de Valance (born 1270) is descended from Richard's daughter Isabel, who inherited from her brother Gilbert in 1185, so it may be the son who is meant in the reference to "the charter of Gilbert de Clare".
"Westley Sextens: This manor, which had its origin in the charter of Gilbert de Clare, was enlarged by subsequent grants, and took the name of Sextens from the Sacrist of St. Edmund's, to whose use it was appropriated.....
"Pembroke or Dunham Hall: The lands which, during the reign of Henry II, Alexander Fitz Reginald held in Westley of the Earl of Clare by the service of of half knight's fee, became the estate of Aymer de Valance, who probably acquired them by descent from his maternal ancestor, Richard de Clare of Pembroke and Strigul."
Physical Description and Personality
..."'A man of a somewhat florid complexion and freckled; with grey eyes, feminine features, a thin voice and short neck, but otherwise of a good stature.' He was rather suited, continues the same historian [Giraldus], for the council chamber than the field, and better fitted to obey than to command. He required to be urged on to enterprise by his followers; but when once in the press of the fight his resolution was as the standard or the rallying-point of his side. No disaster could shake his courage, and he showed no undue exhilaration when things went well."[16]
note - a lot of information in this profile was about his father, not him, so this needs to be verified as a discription of him. The inline citations for Richardson's Royal Ancestry have been verified against the hard copy. The FMG citations need to be verified as coming from his entry - the FMG citation link had been to the "Table of Contents" for English Earls, 1138-1143, rather than to a particular person (which it is now). The other inline citations are still "best guess" for what information came from where, based on leadin/trailing citations. After verifying FMG and Wikipedia, other citations will need to be confirmed by those with access to other cited material. ~ Noland-165 16:35, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Research Notes
Statement needing details: raised Empress Matilda's half-sister[citation needed]

Citations also needed for some of the titles listed above and for his birth location of Tunbridge, Kent, England.[17]

First wife
Lord Jordon de Marisco's daughter Aliva was the first wife of Richard de Clare, "Earl of Pembroke, chief conqueror of Ireland in 1172 ; by whom one son, said to have been slain by his own father; — (1) and a daughter Aliva, (2) wife of William Fitz-Maurice Fitz-Gerald, Baron of Naas."[6]
The following had been in this profile as information on son Gilbert, but if Richard died in 1176, he couldn't have killed his son in 1185:
Gilbert de Clare (d.1185; minor: age 17) - "only son, about 17, frightened by the numbers and cries of the Irish in battle, ran away, and when afterwards informed of his father's victory returned to congratulate him. But 'Strongbow' upbraided him for his cowardice and caused him to be executed by cutting him through the middle with a sword. Such in former times was the detestation of cowardice and dastardliness."[citation needed]
Both Richard and his father are shown as "nicknamed Strongbow" by Richardson.[1]
Charter in The Chronicle of Melrose issued by Richard's grandson, Richard Marshal:
There has been debate about the name "Strongbow" ascribed to both Richard and his father Gilbert. Netherwent (Gwent) men were known for skill and use of an unusually long and strong bow. Both Gilbert and Richard held the lordship of Netherwent. Since Gilbert de Clare's seal shows him holding a long arrow in his right hand, historians assume the ability to use this of bow earned father and son the same nickname.

Burial - Additional Information
Alton Rogers received an e-mail dated June 17, 2006 from Stuart Kinsella, research advisor at Christ Church Cathedral, providing detailed information about the Cathedral and of Strongbow's burial there. Strongbow helped to build this ancient Cathedral and his tomb/monument can be seen there today.
Also from the 1905 book about ancient burials in Gloucester Cathedral titled The Cathedral Church of Gloucester which has a description of its fabric and a brief history of the Episcopal See, a burial related to Richard FitzGilbert (de Clare) "Strongbow" was noted. Written in Black Letters on the wall near his supposed gravestone, reads in Latin:
"Ricds Strongbowe, filius Gilberti, Comitius de Pembroke" (Richard Strongbow, son of Gilbert, Lord of Pembroke).
And although his body was buried at Holy Trinity Cathedral in Dublin, Ireland in 1176, it was thought that possibly his heart was buried in Gloucester Cathedral.[18]
Footnotes and citations
? 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 Richardson, Royal Ancestry (below), Vol IV, pp 336-340 PEMBROKE #3., #4. Richard Fitz Gilbert
? 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8 2.9 Richard FitzGilbert de Clare, entry in the MedLands database (see citation, below; accessed 2 July 2018). See entry for specific source citations.
? Dermod McMorrough, of Leinster, one of the kings of that country (see No. 112 in the Line of Descent from the Kings of Ireland and Scotland, page 390); day after capture of Waterford, Strongbow m. MacMurrough's daughter, Aoife of Leinster.
? Wikipedia (citation below), citing
George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage; or, A History of the House of Lords and All its Members from the Earliest Times, Vol. X, eds. H. A. Doubleday; Geoffrey H. White; & Howard de Walden (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1945), Appendix H, p. 103
? Source given in Richard's entry (in MedLands, citation below): Regan’s "Song of Dermot and the Earl"
? 6.0 6.1 Genealogical memoir of the family of Montmorency, styled De Marisco or Morres, page 41; by Hervey de Montmorency- Morres pub: 1817
? Expugnatio Hibernica
? The English Counties Delineated vol: 2 page: 56 by Thomas Moule
? The Present State of Great-Britain and Ireland: In Three Parts ... by Guy Miege pub: 1718
? Entry for Earls of Pembroke in MedLands (citation below)
? Wikipedia: Earl of Pembroke (accessed 5 July 2018)
? Entry for Gilbert de Clare in MedLands (citation below)
? Wikipedia (citation below)
? Entry for Aífe by Anne Connon in Medieval Ireland: An Encyclopedia, edited by Seán Duffy (2005), page 19
? John Gage, John Gage Rokewode, The History and Antiquities of Suffolk: Thingoe Hundred, pp 85-88
? Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, quoting Giraldus (see page 393)
? Birth location is apparently from his Find A Grave memorial (below), which says "Bio by Iola" but had no other citation as of 2 July 2018.
? H.J.L.J. Masse, M.A., The Cathedral Church of Gloucester (link to the book). See page 101 for The Chapter House and the (heart?) burial of Richard 'Strongbow' FitzGilbert de Clare as well as Bernard de Neufmarche (Bernardus de Novo Mercatu), Walter (Gualterus) de Lacy and others.
Source list:
Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013)
Medieval Lands: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families by Charles Cawley © Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, 2000-2018.
Wikipedia: Richard de Clare (accessed 2 July 2018)
H.J.L.J. Masse, M.A., The Cathedral Church of Gloucester (link to the book)
Monmouthshire on the Wye River
charter in The Chronicle of Melrose issued by Richard's grandson, Richard Marshal
Oxford Dictionary of National Biography 
de Clare, 2nd Earl of Pembroke Richard FitzGilbert (I4548)
936 Richardson, Douglas, "Magna Carta Ancestry" Baltimore, MD, Genealogical Publishing Co, Inc, 2005, p 177.

This line goes back to Saher De Quincy, one of the Surety Barons who signed the Magna Charta. Cousin Bobbie Holder has joined the Baronial Order of the Magna Charta using this line.

Also goes back to Charlemagne through the Beauchamps as well as the Plantagenets (Edward I, II and III), through Bennet Dering's g-g-grandmother Elizabeth Neville, and William the Conqueror.


Bennett Dering was the mother of Magna Carta Gateway Ancestor John Fisher.[1] Both her parents were descendants of Surety Barons.

Bennett, daughter of Richard Dering, Esq., of Surrenden (in Pluckley), Kent, and Margaret Twysden, of Chelmington (in Great Chart), Kent, daughter of William Twysden, Esq., of Peckham, was baptized 12 April 1568[1] at Pluckley, Kent, England.[citation needed]
Richard and Margaret (Twysden) Dering had married about 1557 and had 4 sons and 3 daughters.[1]
Bennett married, by license dated 26 January 1594, John Fisher, gent, son of Alexander Fisher of Debtling, Kent by Katherine, daughter of Peter Maplesden. John was baptised at Debtling 15 March 1563.[1]
Children of John and Bennett (Dering) Fisher:[1]
Alexander Fisher
George Fisher
John Fisher
Henry Fisher
Elizabeth Fisher
? 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4
Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol II, page 177, FISHER 14.
Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, page 596.
Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011)
Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013)
Image Citation: Dering Coat of Arms, Amazon (accessed 28 November 2014). 
Dering, Bennett (I4318)
937 Richardson, Douglas, "Magna Carta Ancestry" Baltimore, MD, Genealogical Publishing Co, Inc, 2005, p 177.

This line goes back to Saher De Quincy, one of the Surety Barons who signed the Magna Charta. Cousin Bobbie Holder has joined the Baronial Order of the Magna Charta using this line.

Also goes back to Charlemagne through the Beauchamps as well as the Plantagenets (Edward I, II and III), through Bennet Dering's g-g-grandmother Elizabeth Neville, and William the Conqueror.

John Fisher, Gent.

Parents: Alexander Fisher of Debtling, Kent, by Katherine, daughter of Peter Maplesden[1]
son John baptized 15 March 1563 at Debtling, Kent;[1] born Maidstone, Kent, England[citation needed]
Wife: Bennett Dering (baptized 1568), daughter of Richard Dering, Esq., of Surrenden, Kent, by Margaret, daughter of William Twysden[1]
married by license dated 26 Jan. 1594[1]
John Fisher and Bennett Dering had four sons and one daughter:[2]
Alexander Fisher[2] b. abt 1595 (guesstimate)
George Fisher[2] b. abt 1598 (guesstimate)
John Fisher b. 1601 (baptized March 7, 1601)[2]
Henry Fisher[2] b. abt 1604 (guesstimate)
Elizabeth Fisher[2]
John died in Pluckley, Kent, England.[citation needed]
? 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Douglas Richardson,Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Volume II, pp 171-177, FISHER
? 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), Vol. II, page 596 
Fisher, John (I4317)
938 Richardson, Douglas, "Magna Carta Ancestry" Baltimore, MD, Genealogical Publishing Co, Inc, 2005, p 177.

This line goes back to Saher De Quincy, one of the Surety Barons who signed the Magna Charta. Cousin Bobbie Holder has joined the Baronial Order of the Magna Charta using this line.

Also goes back to Charlemagne through the Beauchamps as well as the Plantagenets (Edward I, II and III), through Richard Dering's g-grandmother Elizabeth Neville, and William the Conqueror.

His country house in Kent destroyed by fire in 1952 - details here:
Richard Dering, Esq.[1]

Richard Dering, Esq., of Surrenden, Kent, born about 1530, was son and heir of John Dering, Esq., MP, of Surrenden Dering, Pluckley, Kent, and his wife Margaret Brent, sister and heiress of Thomas Brent, Esq., of Charing, Kent.[1][2]
Richard married (about 1557) Margaret Twysden, of Chelmington (in Great Chart), Kent. She was the daughter of William Twysden, Esq., of Peckham, Kent, by Elizabeth, daughter of Thomas Roydon, Esq.[1][3]
They had 4 sons (Sir Anthony, George, Edward and Thomas) and 3 daughters (Bennett, wife of John Fisher; Jane, wife of Henry Haute Esq; and Elizabeth, wife of Sir William Skeffington, 1st Baronet).[1]
Richard was buried at Pluckley, Kent, on 6 March 1611. His wife Margaret had been buried there on 2 August 1608.[1]
Richard was born about 1542. He passed away in 1610. Richard Deringe was born in 1542 in Devon, England, his father, John, was 20 and his mother, Margaret, was 32. He married Margaret TWISDEN in 1562 in Great Chart, Kent, England. They had one child? during their marriage. He died on March 6, 1610, in Kent, England, at the age of 68.


? 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Volume II, pp 171-177, FISHER
? The History of Parliament Online: John Dering (1504-1549/50), article by Helen Miller
? see CROMER 13 (#Richardson) for Elizabeth's Magna Carta ancestry
Weever, John. Ancient Funerall Monuments within the United Monarchie of Great Britaine, Ireland, and the Islands Adjacent (Thomas Harper, London, 1631) Page 293: Pluckley, Kent, England

British Chancery Records, 1386-1558// Original data: Lists of Early Chancery Proceedings//
Date 1553-1555

Volume 10

Page 116

Bundle 1394

London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812// London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Saviour, Southwark, Composite register: baptisms and marriages Mar 1609 - 1653 Sep, burials Mar 1609 - Feb 1653/3, P92/SAV, Item 3002.

Oxford University Alumni, 1500-1886/ Page 33.

UK, Extracted Probate Records// Death 6 Mar 1610 • Kent, England

Book Calendar of Wills and Administrations now preserved in the Probate Registry at Canterbury, 1396-1558

Collection England: Canterbury - Wills and Administrations in the Probate Registry at Canterbury, 1396-1558 and 1640-1650

Text Deryng, Dering, Richard, gentleman, Pluckley A. 3 332 1480

Dering, Richard Esq (I4319)
939 Richmond, Virginia City Directories, 1889-90 Record
about William Queensberry
Name: William Queensberry
Location 2: Perry near 12th
Occupation: ironwkr
Year: 1889
City: Manchester
State: VA
Queensberry, William E. (I0907)
940 ROBERT "Robin" HILL, JR

Robert Hill Jr married Martha Patsey Murphrey and the made their home in a plantation house called the Hurricanes.

The Hurricanes, was a large old fashioned house in a large grove of oak trees. Robert Hill built the house before the Revolutionary War. The land had been part of the Murphrey lands originally into which family Robert had married. The old gentleman is said to have drawn the plans for the house himself and to have imported a craftsman fromVirginia to finish is off in a proper fashion.

The main house was situated on a rolling hill about half a mile from Contentnea Creek and reached by a long drive lined with cedar trees. On either side of the doorsteps were large lilacand japonica bushes and numerous old box bushes.

Upon entering the house one found oneself in a large hall with the stairs to the right behind a large arch.This hallway was used as a sitting room in the summertime when many luscious breezes came in thorough the windows. Behind this hall were two large rooms. The one on the left was the dining room and the one on the right the parlour.

The parlour was full of old fashioned furniture and several large bookcases. Over the mantle hung a portrait of Robert Hill showing him in a red coat with red hair.

Karen Mason,
Updated November 2001

Source: WorldConnect Project at JCNC Familys February 2001
Robert Hill, Jr. was born about 1734 to his parents, Robert and Hannah Hill.

He was also called "Robin" and he appears on the 1754 Muster Roll of Captain Francis Mackelwain's Company, Johnston County, North Carolina with his father.

He married Martha (Patsey) Murphrey and their children were: Nancy, Abraham, Hardy, Harmon, Whitmel, Michael, Richard, and a stillborn son. Robert and his wife, Patsey, lived on a plantation called "Hurricanes".

Robert appears on the 1800 Greene County Census as head of the household as well as Matthias Hill, Charles Hill, Richard Hill, Abraham Hill, and Michael. We do not know the relationship of Matthias and Charles.

DAR National #27656 - Research by Ima Mewborn

MILITARY: "All military and naval services of the Colonies, prior 4 July 1776)

Robert Hill, Sr. and Robert Hill, Jr. are on the Muster Roll of Captain Francis MacKelwain's Company, Johnston, NC - 1754: Robert Hill, Sr is No. 24 and Robert Hill, Jr is No. 32.

Page 686: Voter List - Glasgow County for 2 Representatives to General Assemby 8 August 1793

#127 Robert Hill #128 Abram Hill #136 Richard Hill #163 Briggs Hill

Colonial Soldiers of the South 1732-1774 by Murtie June Clark, pages 730-31.

Both Robert Hill, Jr. and Robert Hill, Sr. are listed on this Johnston County, NC 1754 Militia List. (I.E.M)

!Robert Hill, Jr. was born about 1734 to his parents, Robert and Hannah Hill. He was also called "Robin" and he appears on the 1754 Muster Roll of Captain Francis Mackelwain's Company, Johnston County, North Carolina with his father.
He married Martha (Patsey) Murphrey and their children were: Nancy,Abraham, Hardy, Harmon, Whitmel, Michael, Richard, and a stillborn son. Robert and his wife, Patsey, lived on a plantation called "Hurricanes". Robert appears on the 1800 Greene County Census as head of the household as well as Matthias Hill, Charles Hill, Richard Hill, Abraham Hill, and Michael. We do not know the relationship of Matthias and Charles.
DAR National #27656 Page 686: Voter List - Glasgow County for 2 Representatives to General Assembly 8 August 1793
#127 Robert Hill
#128 Abram Hill
#136 Richard Hill
#163 Briggs Hill

DAR papers of Ima Mewborn
Quote from a letter from Elizabeth Harrison Murphrey (Mother-in-law) to Mary "Polly" Aldridge Murphrey (daughter-in-law) at New Bern, NC, dated April 12, 1776: My Dearest Daughter: I am with Patsy (Matha Murphrey Hill) at present. She had a miscarriage this Friday, will be most a week. She was delivered of a fine boy, tho stillborn. She is quite well, but distraught, as any mother
who looses a small one is. Healthwise she glows. She attributes the misfortune to a very bad trip by charriott last week to visit Nancy(sister
Nancy Murphrey Caswell) at Chelsea." (Martha Sugg Dixon Papers 1827-1904) Quote from a letter from Elizabeth Harrison Murphrey to her husband, John
Murphrey, Sr. at Halifax dated August 7, 1774: My Dearest Husband:"Only the new rice field and Robin's rice crop are standing in this part of the country. (William) Hooker and (Abraham) Sheppard have been by to visit and talk of
nothing but high waters and ruin". (MSD)
Captain Murphrey and his wife, Martha (Patsey) Murphrey had 2 daughters, Martha who married Robert "Robin" Hill and Elizabeth Murphrey who married John Sugg, SR Change Date: 2 Feb 2001 at 11:55:28

Family F266
941 Robert "the Hunchback" de Beaumont

2nd Earl of Leicester

The surname "de Beaumont" is given him by genealogists. The only known contemporary surname applied to him is "Robert son of Count Robert". Henry Knighton, the fourteenth-century chronicler notes him as Robert "Le Bossu" (meaning "Robert the Hunchback" in French).
Sir Robert II de Beaumont (2nd Earl of Leicester, see Complete Peerage)
Birth: 1104 Normandy, France
Death: 5 Apr 1168 Leicestershire, England
Buried: Sainte-Marie de Pré

Steward of England and Normandy 1154
Viceroy of England 1158 - 1163 & in 1165
2nd Earl of Leicester 1118
Count of Meulan.
Earl of Lancaster
Seigneur de Beaumont, Vatteville and Brionne.
Title: Knighted, 1122

1104 Pont Audemer, Eure, Normandy, France


5 APR 1168 Leicester Castle, Leicestershire, England

St Mary de Pre Priory, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England [citation needed]
Leicester Abbey, Leicester, Leicestershire, England. Body buried at Leicestershire Abbey, (viscera burial) Hospital of St. James and St. John, Brackley, Northamptonshire, England [citation needed]

2nd Earl of Leicester
Created Justiciar of England **In medieval England and Ireland the Chief Justiciar (later known simply as the Justiciar) was roughly equivalent to a modern Prime Minister as the monarch's chief minister. Similar positions existed on the Continent
Justiciar of England, 1155-1168

Knighted 1122[1]
2nd Earl of Leicester
Justiciar of England 1155-1168[1]
From Some Descendants of Charlemagne
Marriage and Children

Marriage: AFT NOV 1120[1] Brittany, France [citation needed]
Husband: Robert 'Bossu' de BEAUMONT
Wife: Amice (Uta) de GAEL
Child: Margaret de BEAUMONT[1]
Child: Robert 'Blanchmains' Harcourt son and heir[1]
Child: Isabel Or Elizabeth de BEAUMONT[1]
Child: Hawise 'De Beaumont' de LEICESTER[1]
Child: William de BEAUMONT [citation needed]
Child: John de BEAUMONT[1]
Child: Geoffrey de BEAUMONT[1]
Child: Henry de BEAUMONT[1]
Death 5 APR 1168 Leicester, Leicestershire, , England[2]
The FMG shows only these four children as issue of Robert and Amice:
ISABELLE de Beaumont d. aft. 1188, m. Simon de Senlis, Gervase Paynell aka (or Elizabeth) of Leicester RA III:559
ROBERT de Beaumont "ès Blanchemains" d. Durazzo 1190, aka Robert de Breteuil, 2nd Earl of Leicester, m. Pernel de Grandmesnil, RA III:559
HAVISE de Beaumont d. 1197 m. William Fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester, RA III:559
MARGUERITE de Beaumont b. c. 1125 - d. aft. 1185 m. Ralph de Tony, RA III:559
Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson, Vol III, page 559, shows the four children listed by FMG, plus three other sons: Henry, Geoffrey and John.

His granddaughter Hawisa or Isabella of Gloucester was the unfortunate first wife of King John.
Parents and Siblings

Marriage of Robert's parents: 1096[3]France
Husband: Robert de BEAUMONT
Wife: Isabel Elizabeth de VERMANDOIS
Child: Isabel (Elizabeth) de BEAUMONT
Child: Aubreye de BEAUMONT
Child: Robert 'Bossu' de BEAUMONT
Child: Waleran UNKNOWN
Child: Hugh de BEAUMONT
Child: Havoise de BEAUMONT
Child: Amicade de BEAUMONT
Child: Maud de BEAUMONT

On Leicester, Earldom of [Burke's Peerage, p. 1671]:
Robert de Beaumont, a companion in arms of William I (The Conqueror) at Hastings was granted after the Conquest much land in the Midlands of England, but most of it was in Warwickshire rather than Leicestershire. Indeed his younger brother became Earl of Warwick. Robert also held territory in Normandy and is usually referred to as Count of Meulan. He was a leading political figure in the reigns of William II and Henry I and on the death of one Ives de Grandmesnil in the First Crusade, the funds for campaigning in which Ives had raised from Robert on the security of his estates, [Robert] came into full possession of them, including a sizeable part of Leicester. The rest of the town was granted him by Henry I and it is possible that he became Earl of Leicester. His son, another Robert, certainly called himself Earl of Leicester. [NOTE: According to Richardson, this Robert, " after obtaining the whole town of Leicester, he is said to have become the Earl of Leicester, but being already the Count of Meulan, he was never so styled."[1] This profile is "His son, another Robert, certainly called himself Earl of Leicester" -- definitely was granted the title and is this Robert in this profile, designated by Richardson "1st Earl of Leicester"]Dellinger-332
ROBERT (a), EARL OF LEICESTER, younger son, being twin with Waleran, who succeeded his father as Count of Meulan, was born 1104, and was commonly called Le Bossu or Le Goczen. He styles himself Earl of Leicester in the confirmation of his charter on behalf of Bec and St. Nicaise-de-Meulan in 1119. He and his brother Waleran were brought up at the court of Henry I with great care on account of the King's gratitude to their father. They accompanied Henry when he interviewed Pope Calixtus at Gisors, November 1119 where they astonished the Cardinals by their learning. On 8 September 1131 Robert was one of the five Earls who witnessed Henry's charter to Salisbury at the Northampton Council, and both the brothers were present at the deathbed of Henry L In the anarchy which followed Stephen's accession he engaged in private warfare with his hereditary enemy, Roger de Tosny, whom he captured with the assistance of his brother Waleran. In 1137 the twins returned to England with Stephen. Meanwhile, during Robert's absence in England, his possessions in Normandy were overrun until he came to terms with Roger de Tosny. In June 1139 the two brothers took a leading part in the seizing of the Bishops o! Salisbury and Lincoln at Oxford. At about this time he received from Stephen a grant to him as Earl of Leicester and to his heirs of the town and castle of Hereford "et totum comitatum de Herefordisc.," excepting the lands of the Bishop, those of the Abbot of Reading and of other churches and abbeys holding in chief of the King, and excepting also the fees of Hugh de Mortemer, Osbert son of Hugh, and others, "cum aliis omnibus rebus et libertatibus quae ad omnia prefata pertinent cum quibus Gul. filius Osbern unquam melius vel liberius tenuit." This grant was made at Newton (probably near Leominster) at a time when Miles of Gloucester had already taken possession of the county for the Empress, and therefore cannot have been effectual to bestow either the lands or the Earldom of Hereford, if such was Stephen's intention. After the defeat of Stephen, 2 Feb. 1141, Robert appears to have made a truce with the Angevin party in Normandy until he should return from England, and devoted himself to his foundation of St. Mary de Pré at Leicester, which was accomplished in 1143. According to the narrative of St. Mary's, he became a canon regular there circa 1153, and so remained until his death, but the story conflicts with his known public career. In that year Henry, son of the Empress, anticipating his succession to the throne (which was agreed by the Treatyof Waningford in November 1153), gave Robert and his son Robert charters, dated at Bristol, "restoring" to them the lands then held by the elder, Robert, and granting them the Stewardship of England and of Normandy, whereby he doubtless secured their support of his claims to the crown. Robert was at the siege of Torigny in October 1154 with Henry II just before his accession, attended his Coronation in December 1154, and rapidly rose in the new King's favour. He received a confirmation charter of the grant made at Bristol and thus became Steward of England and of Nor:mandy. He was made Justiciar in the following year, and he acted as Viccroy part of the time with Richard de Luci during the King's absence from England from December 1158, after Eleanor left the country until his rcturn 25 January 1162/3. He was present at the Council of Clarendon, 13-28 January 1163/4, and was the first to attest the "Constitutions," to which he procured the assent of Thomas à Becket. He took part with the Crown in its struggle with Becket, but sought to reconcile the King and the Archbishop at the Council of Northampton in October 1164. As Justiciar he pronounced sentence on the Archbishop, who cutshort his address by denying the jurisdiction of the court. In 1165 he again acted as Viceroy on the King's departure. In the spring of 1166 he went to Normandy with the King, but was in England again in October, and retained the Justiciarship until his death two years later.
He married, after November 1120, Amice, daughter of Ralph, SEIGNEUR OF GAEL AND MONTFORT in Brittany, who was son of Ralph, EARL OF NORFOLK, by Emma, daughter of William FITZOSBERN, 1st Earl of Hereford. By this marriage he acquired a large part of the FitzOsbern inheritance in Normandy and England. He died 5 April 1168, and was probably buried in St. Mary de Pré. Amice survived him, and is said to have entered the convent of Nuneaton. [Complete Peerage VII:527-30, XIV:429, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
[a] It has become the established usage to apply the name of Beaumont to the Earls of Leicester of the first line. Though doubtless a convenient form of nomenclature, it lacks contemporary authority. Roger, Seigneur of Beaumont-le-Roger, the contemporary of the Conqueror, is called Roger de Beaumont with good reason. Orderic speaks of his younger brother Robert as Robert de Beaumont, but in doing so is clearly transferring to him the style borne later by Roger, for Robert always appears in charters as Robertus flius Humphredi. Robert, son of Roger, was also styled de Beaumont until he became Count of Meulan, but his son Robert, 2nd Earl of Leicester, is never so styled. In the next generation the question does not arise, for there were no younger sons. In the last generation of these Earls, William, the eldest brother (who d. vp), is in charters always William de Bréteuil, and Robert, before he succeeded as Earl, figures as Robert de Bréteuil in two charters, and is also so styled in the Chron. de Mailros. There was no reason why this branch of the family should take its style from a place in which it had no interest. Hugh (said to have become Earl of Bedford), younger brother of Robert and Waleran, witnesses a charter circa 1123-38 as Hugone de Mellent. With respect to the elder branch, those who were not themselves Counts were called de Mellento, and this though the caput of their Norman honour was Beaumont, and this endured as the name of two branches of the family after the loss of the comti of Meulan.

1. Nichol's Lcstrs, vol 1 pt 1 p. 98 (GS #Q942.54 H2nic)
2. Wurts' Magna Charta vol 1-2 p. 85 (GS #942 D22w)
3. Dict of Nat'l Biog vol 4 p. 66-67 (GS # Ref 920.042 D561n)
4. Plantagenet Ancestry p. 100, 117 (GS #940 D25)
5. Baker's Nrthmp vol 1 p. 563 (GS #Q942.55 H2ba)
6. The Battle Abbey Roll vol 1 p. 14, 148 (GS #942 D2bb)
7. Complete Peerage vol 7 p. 520 (GS #942 D24c)
8. Adjusted for Leland J. Hendrix (22 gg son to #1) 931 S. 100 E.
Orem, Utah, 18 Apr 1968
9. Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists 5563 (GS #974 D2w)
10. Americans of Royal Descent p. 34, 83, 119 (GS #973 D2ba)
11. Proving Your Pedigree p. 204 (GS #929.1 B439p)
12. Royal Anc Levi Tenney (GS #929.6 T157K)

? 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10
? Source: #S004330 Birth date: 1104 Birth place: Normandy, of Normandy, France Death date: 5 Apr 1168 Death place: St Mary's De Pre, Leicester, Leics, England
? Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Vol V, page 271, by Douglas Richardson, (2013)
Richardson, Royal Ancestry (2013) Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), volume III, page 558-559, #6. "Robert of Meulan, Knt, nicknamed le Bossu"
For parents of, see: Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson Vol. V. page 273
Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester, Wikipedia
Davis, Henry. Regesta Regum Anglo Normannorum, 1066–1154 (Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1969) Vol. 4, Plate XXV
Jennifer Newcomb. Madden/Grove Website ( family tree) MyHeritage 090118: Robert "the Hunchback" de Beaumont
Edward T. Beaumont, "The Beaumonts in History, A.D. 850-1850."
Roderick W. Stuart, "Royalty for Commoners." 
de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester Robert (I4226)
942 Robert de Clifford, knight, of "Appleby, Brougham, Stainmore, etc., Westmoreland, Singleborough (in Great Horwood), Buckinghamshire, Hart, Durham, Essindine, Rutland, Winderton (in Brailes), Warwickshire, Tenbury, Worcestershire, etc., hereditary Sheriff of Westmorland, Governor of Carlisle and Nottingham Castles, Warden of the Marches of Scotland, Guardian of Norham Castle"[1]

1st Baron de Clifford, created by writ 1299[2]
1st Lord Clifford[1]
Earl Marshal of England (1307–1308)[2]
1st Lord of the Honour of Skipton, in Craven. (ref: Clifford pedigree under the title: 'Table Showing the Descent of the Barony of Clifford')
Birth: abt 5 April 1276[3] at Clifford Castle, Herefs, England[citation needed] (age 8 in 1282[1])
"born about Easter 1273"[4]
Easter 1273 (9 April 1273)[5] (Easter 1274 was 1 April 1274, which is what his #Wikipedia article says, albeit without a source)
Parents: Roger de Clifford and Isabel de Vipont married "shortly after June 28, 1265"[1][6]
Child: Robert de Clifford,[7] son and heir[1]
Wife: married November 13, 1295 Maud de Clare, daughter of Sir Thomas de Clare of Thomond in Connought, Ireland, by his wife Juliane, daughter of Maurice Fitz Maurice, Knt., Justiciar of Ireland[1]
Death and Burial
Death: 24 June 1314, slain at the Battle of Bannockburn[2]
Burial: Abbey church of St. Mary Magdalene (Shap Abbey), Shap Rural, Cumbria, (Westmorland), England[1][8]
Note. Regarding the burial of Sir Robert de Clifford, 1st Lord Clifford at Shap Abbey. Alton Rogers received an e-mail of January 15, 2007 from Jean Jackson with the Shap Local History Society ( regarding the burial of Robert de Clifford at Shap Abbey. She said "There is a book called 'Shappe in Bygone Days' which was written by our Vicar in 1898 which has a chapter on the Abbey of St. Mary Magdalene. He was a historian and the following is an extract from the chapter: Next is a presbytery. Immediately on the left is an ambry or cupboard for the service books and sacred vessels. Below is a gravestone, which may be over the body of Robert de Clifford, who fell at Bannockburn. There is no evidence except the incised sword, which indicates that the grave is of one slain in battle. A note under this says 'On Sunday June 24th 1314, in his 40th year. His body was sent to King Edward at Berwick.' Another Robert died May 20th 1345 (sic) and is probably buried here."

Roger de Clifford, 2nd Baron,[1] born February 2, 1299[4]
Idoine de Clifford, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, 2nd Baron[1]
Margaret de Clifford, wife of Sir Peter de Mauley, 3rd Baron[1]
Robert de Clifford, 3rd Baron[1]
Disputed Relations
Note: The following profiles for siblings/children that are probably someone else's were detached from Robert and his wife Maud Clare or his parents Roger de Clifford and Isabel de Vipont:

Siblings John and Idonea
Children John, Andrew, Catherine
Royal Ancestry D. Richardson 2013 Vol. II p. 242-243
Ancestral Roots 8th ed. F.L. Weis 2004 Line 64-32 & 82-32,_1st_Baron_de_Clifford
? 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10
Source: Magna Carta Ancestry (#Richardson)
? 2.0 2.1 2.2 #Wikipedia
? Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013)
? 4.0 4.1 his entry in the Dictionary of National Biography (#DNB)
? Date from this Regnal calendar
? "They had one son, Robert, Knt. [1st Lord Clifford]." (#Richardson)
? George E. Cokayne, The Complete Peerage, volume III, page 291
? Shap Abbey (#English_Heritage)
Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Vol 1, p. 502, CLIFFORD 6.
Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), Vol. II p. 242-243
Robert de Clifford, Dictionary of National Biography (DNB), p 70
Robert de Clifford (son), Dictionary of National Biography, p 74
Clifford family, Encyclopaedia Britannica, 11th Edition, Volume 6
British History, article on Appleby (Isabel's inheritance)
Sir Robert de Clifford, "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins" (website, compiled by Mr. Marlyn Lewis, Portland, OR; accessed June 10, 2015)
Robert de Clifford, "The Peerage" (website, compiled by Darryl Lundy, Ngaio, Wellington, New Zealand; accessed June 10, 2015)
Robert de Clifford, 1st Baron de Clifford
Baron de Clifford
Earl Marshal
Battle of Bannockburn
Shap Abbey
History of Shap Abbey, English Heritage site
Kathryn Warner's blog entry for January 25, 2015, about Robert & Maud and their children (with citations)
Calendar of the Fine Rolls Preserved in the Public Record Office (London, 1912) Vol. II. Edward II. A.D. 1307-1319 Page 2: Aug. 18, 1307 "The like to Robert de Cliffordof the office of justice of the forest on this side of Trent,..."
Battle of Bannockburn: Robert Clifford [1] 
Clifford, 1st Lord Clifford Robert (I4615)
943 Robert de Quincy was the son and heir apparent to Saher de Quincy, Earl of Winchester and Magna Carta Baron, by Margaret de Beaumont, aka Margaret of Leicester.

Robert and his father were captured at the Battle of Lincoln, 20 May 1217.

Robert married around 1197-1200 (the date of the marriage charter), Hawise of Chester, daughter of Hugh, Earl of Chester and Bertrade de Montfort.

His wife, Hawise, had "10 librates of land in Waddington, land in Sibsey, and the service of three fees in Cabourn in marriage." [1]

They had one daughter, Margaret.

Robert died in London in 1217 and was buried in Clerkenwell, Middlesex, at the Church of the Hospitallers. The Church of the Hospitallers was actually known as the Priory and Church of the Knights Hospitallers of St. John of Jerusalem, Clerkenwell, London. It was of the monastic order of the same name, with Clerkenwell as its English headquarters, being consecrated in 1185. In 1723 it was known as St. John's Clerkenwell and by the 18th century was largely in ruins. The only remains now are a reconstructed gate known as St. John's Gate in St. John's Square, London.

Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson Vol. II, page 154
Royal Ancestry 2013 Vol. IV p. 441-442
? Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, p. 207
See also:
Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd Edition, by Douglas Richardson, publ. 2011
Richardson, Douglas, and Kimball G. Everingham. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Vol. IV. Salt Lake City, UT.: Douglas Richardson., 2013. Pages 435-437.
Hulton, W.A. ed., The Coucher Book or Cartulary of Whalley Abbey. Vol. I, Remains Historical & Literary Connected with the Palatine Counties of Lancaster and Chester (Printed for The Chetham Society, 1846) Vol. 10, Page 8
de Quincy, Earl of Lincoln Robert (I4627)
944 Robert de Roos was one of the twenty-five medieval barons who were surety for Magna Carta in 1215.

Sir Robert de Ros or Roos of Fursan (1177 - 11 December 1226) was the fourth baron by tenure of Hamlake manor (later associated with the barony of de Ros).

"He was a member of the Order of Knights Templar. He died in1226/7 and was buried "in his proper habit" in the Knights' Church, orthe New Temple in London, where his tomb may be seen. His effigy isdescribed by Gough, in "Sepulchral Monuments," as "the most elegant ofall the figures in the Temple Church, representing a comly young knightin mail, and a flowing mantle with a kind of cowl; his hair neatly curledat the sides; his crown appears shaved. His hands are elevated in apraying posture, and on his left arm is a short, pointed shield chargedwith three water-bougets. He has on his left side a long sword, and thearmor of his legs, which are crossed, has a ridge, or a seam up thefront, continued over the knee. At his feet is a lion, and the wholefigure measures six feet two inches..."

Titles of Robert de Roos (Royal Ancestry):

Bailiff and Castellan of Bonneville-sur-Touques in Lower Normandy
Sheriff of Cumberland 1213
Father Everard de Roos, Baron of Helmsley[1] d. 1183

Mother Roese Trusbutt[2] b. c 1151, d. bt 1194 - 29 Sep


Isabel of Scotland b. c 1165

Sir William de Roos b. c 1193, d. 1258 or 1264
Sir Robert de Roos, Chief Justice of the King's Bench b. b Feb 1207, d. bt 1267 - Nov 1269
Robert de Roos, Magna Carta Surety, 4th Baron Hamlake, Sheriff of Cumberland was born between 1170 and 1172 at of Helmsley & Hunsingore, Yorkshire, England; Age 13 in 1185, but of age in 1191.

He married Isabel, illegitimate daughter of William I 'the Lion', King of Scotland, Earl of Northumberland and Isabel de Avernal, circa February 1191 at Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. They had 2 sons (Sir William; & Sir Robert).[3][4]

Robert de Roos, Magna Carta Surety, 4th Baron Hamlake, Sheriff of Cumberland died in 1227 at England; Buried in the Temple Church, London.2,3

Magna Carta 800th Anniversary Biography

by Professor Nigel Saul
"Robert de Ros (c. 1182-1226/7), kinsman through marriage of Eustace de Vesci, and the son of Everard de Ros and Roese, née Trussebut, was a Yorkshire lord, the owner of extensive estates centring on Helmsley in the North Riding of Yorkshire and Wark-on-Tweed in Northumberland. He was married, at an unknown date, to Isabella, an illegitimate daughter of William the Lion, king of Scotland, and widow of Robert III de Brus.

"In the early 1200s Robert is found co-operating actively with King John, witnessing a number of his charters, chiefly at locations in northern England, and in 1203 assisting in the king’s defence of Normandy, where by descent from his mother he held the hereditary office of bailiff and constable of Bonneville-sur-Touques in the lower part of the duchy. In 1205, however, a year of rising political tension, there are signs that his relations with the king were worsening, and John ordered the seizure of his lands and, apparently shortly afterwards, had his son taken hostage. Robert, a little later, recovered his lands, but an indication that he might have been interested in leaving England is given by his acquisition of a licence to pledge his lands for crusading. It is not known, however, if he ever actually did embark for the East.

"In 1212 Robert seems to have entered a monastery, and on 15 May that year John handed over custody of his lands to one Philip de Ulcot. His monastic profession, however, cannot have lasted for long, for on 30 January 1213 John appointed him sheriff of Cumberland, and later in the same year he was one of the witnesses to John’s surrender of his kingdom to the pope. In 1215, as relations between the king and the baronial opposition worsened, John seems to have tried to keep Robert on his side, ordering one of his counsellors to try to secure the election of Robert’s aunt as abbess of Barking. By April, however, Robert was firmly on the baronial side, attending the baronial muster at Stamford and, after June, being nominated to the committee of twenty-five.

"When war between the king and his opponents broke out towards the end of the year, Robert was active on the baronial side, forfeiting his lands as a result and suffering the capture of his son at the battle of Lincoln in May 1217. After Louis returned to France, Robert submitted to the new government and recovered most, although not all, of his lands. He witnessed the third and definitive reissue of Magna Carta on 11 February 1225. Sometime before 1226 he retired to a monastery and he died either in that year or early in 1227. At some stage he was received into the ranks of the Templars and on his death he was buried in the Temple Church in London, where a few years earlier William Marshal, the one-time Regent had been buried. An effigy in that church sometimes associated with him dates from at least a generation later.

"Robert is an enigmatic individual who had close ties with Eustace de Vesci but did not openly join the rebellion until just before Runnymede. He probably felt a conflict between his sense of loyalty to his fellow Northerners and his obligation of obedience to the king."

~ Biography courtesy of Professor Nigel Saul and the Magna Carta 800th Anniversary Committee


? Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 444-445.
? Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 484-486.
? Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 586.
? Robert de Ros is the father of Sir William de Ros (#MCP-1 Line 116-1, p. 152
? Magna Charta Sureties, p. 129
? Magna Charta Sureties, p. 132
? Ancestral Roots, p. 88, 148
? GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD#100
? Helmsley Castle, p. 24
? Stapleton, Magni Rotuli Scaccarii Normaniae, vol I, pp. cxl, clxiv, vol II, p. lxxvii
? Patent Rolls, p. 38
? Charter Rolls, p. 111b
? ibid, pp. 114a, 119b; Rotuli Normaniae, p. 113
? Close Rolls, i 246
? ibid. i 31
? Hunter, Rotuli Selecti, p. 17
? Close Rolls i. 99
? Patent Rolls, p. 91
? Close Rolls, i. 116b
? Patent Rolls, p. 96b
? ibid, p. 97
? 9 Sep Close Rolls, i. 149b
? 1 Oct, Patent Rolls, p. 104b
? Charter Rolls, p. 195; Litene Contuarienses, Rolls Ser. i.21
? Close Rolls i. 194
? ibid. i.202
? ii.114
? Medieval Castles, Towers, Peles and Bastles of Northumberland, p. 16
? Close Rolls, i. 246b
? ibid., i.269
? Close Rolls, i.441
? ibid. i.474b
? ibid. i496b
? ibid. ii.15
? ibid. ii1666
? Close Rolls, I.117b
? W. Glyn Thomas
Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Vol. III p. 444-445
Richardson's Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV p. 487-489 (2013)
Charles Cawley, MedLands, Foundation for Medieval Genealogy. MedLands is a prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families.
Marshall, G. W. (1871). The Visitations of the County of Nottingham in the Years 1569 and 1614, (pp.111). London.
MCP 1 Weis, F.L. (1999). The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (5th ed). Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.,
Chisholm, H. (1911). "Ros (family)." The Encyclopaedia Britannica: A Dictionary of Arts, Sciences, Literature and General Information, (Vol. 23, pp.720). Encyclopaedia britannica Co. Google eBook.
De Roos, Robert Lord of Hamlake Castle, Yorkshire (I4590)
945 Robert de Vere was one of the twenty-five medieval barons who were surety for Magna Carta in 1215.

Robert de Vere,[1] 3rd Earl of Oxford and Hereditary Master Chamberlain[2]

He was christened in 1164.[3][4][5]

"Robert de Vere (d 1221) was a member of a comital family, based at Hedingham (Essex), which owed its rise to rise to eminence to the patronage of the Empress Matilda in the civil war of King Stephen’s reign in the 1140s."[6]

Early Life
"Robert himself was the third surviving son of Earl Aubrey (d. 1194) by his third wife, Agnes of Essex, and succeeded to the title on the death of his elder brother, another Aubrey in October 1214."[6]

Marriage: After 1206, Robert de Vere married Isabel de Bolebec, daughter of Hugh Bolbec and wife, and widow of Henry de Nonant.[7]

"Sometime before Michaelmas 1207 Robert had married Isabel de Bolebec, the aunt and namesake of Earl Aubrey’s wife, who had died childless in 1206 or 1207. Isabel the niece had been the heiress to the Bolebec estate, which was centred on Whitchurch (Bucks.), and her own heirs were her two aunts. Robert’s marriage can therefore be seen as part of a de Vere strategy to retain control over at least half of the Bolebec lands. The de Veres were one of the least well-endowed of the comital families and would have been loath to allow a valuable estate to slip from their grasp."[6]
Children: Robert and Isabel had a son, Hugh (who married Hawise de Quincy), and a daughter, Eleanor (who married Ralph Gernon).[7]

Brother: Upon the death of his childless elder brother Aubrey, second earl of Oxford, in 1214, Robert became third earl and hereditary great chamberlain of England.[7] "On payment of a thousand marks he obtained livery of his lands and the wardship of the heir of William FitzOates to marry to his niece".[8]

"His brother had been reckoned among the 'evil counsellors' of King John, but he [Robert] took the side of the barons, became one of the twenty-five executors of Magna Charta, forfeited his estates, and in December 1215 was excommunicated by the pope as a rebel along with the other Magna Carta barons."[8]
"Robert’s defection to the rebel side in 1215 provides yet another example of King John’s capacity to alienate men who should have been numbered among his natural allies. His predecessor in the title had been one of the king’s most loyal intimates and administrators. Robert was probably moved to defect in part by his resentment at the relief of 1000 marks charged for his entry into his inheritance, which was high for an estate of only moderate extent. Most of all, however, he probably nursed a grievance against the king for his failure to confirm him in the title of earl and in the office of court chamberlain, which de Vere held by hereditary right.[6]

"Robert is known to have been present at the baronial muster at Stamford in April 1215 and he was named by the chronicler Roger Wendover as one of the principal promoters of discontent. He was a key figure in the East Anglian group of rebels. By 23 June, after the meeting at Runnymede, the king was evidently angling to regain his support because on that date a royal letter was issued which implicitly recognised him as earl of Oxford. By that time, however, it was too late: Robert had already been named to the Twenty Five. Towards the end of March 1216 John took possession of his castle at Hedingham after a three-day siege and the earl, who was not present, was granted a safe-conduct to seek the king’s forgiveness. Within months, however, he had defected to Louis of France and he was not to re-enter royal allegiance for good until the general settlement of the rebellion in the autumn of 1217."[6]

After John's death he recovered his lands.[8] In October 1217, he returned to allegiance.[9] "Although he did homage to Henry, he was not fully restored in his offices and lands until February 1218."[10]

Robert died shortly before 25 October 1221[7] and was buried in the Benedictine priory at Hatfield Broadoak, Colne, Essex, England.[11]

"Robert’s widow obtained the guardianship of their son, Hugh, who was a minor, and of his estates, which she was to exercise for about ten years. She died on 3 February 1245 and was buried in the Dominican friary at Oxford, nearer to her own family’s estates."[6]

"A century after his death, to mark the long-delayed completion of the priory church, a fine tomb effigy to his memory was commissioned, carved by the same sculptors who produced the monument to Aymer de Valence, earl of Pembroke, in Westminster Abbey. At the Dissolution, the effigy was transferred to Hatfield Broad Oak parish church, where it remains."[6]
"His effigy, cross-legged, remains in the parish church, whither it was removed from the old priory church. Vincent called attention to the fact that on his shield the silver mullet in the first quarter was borne, not as by all other Veres upon a field gules, but upon one of France ancient. This anomaly does not seem to have been explained."[8]
"In the year of Robert's death, his widow gave a site in the city of Oxford to the Dominicans (the black friars) who had just come into England."[8]

"Robert’s widow obtained the guardianship of their son, Hugh, who was a minor, and of his estates, which she was to exercise for about ten years. She died on 3 February 1245 and was buried in the Dominican friary at Oxford, nearer to her own family’s estates."[6]

Robert de Vere was buried at Hatfield Priory, Hatfield Peverel village, Braintree, Essex presently the active priory church of St. Andrews, with parts of the original Norman priory church surviving. His wife Isabel was buried in the new church of the Black Friars, Oxford, which she founded. The church was dissolved by Henry VIII in the Dissolution of the Monasteries in the 1530s and no longer exists.[citation needed]

Research Notes
"Oxford [Robert de Vere] has by some writers been reckoned a judge of the royal court, on the strength of a solitary record of fines levied before him in 1220, and as a younger son he might have been brought up to the law. But he may only have been presiding, as peers frequently did, over a body of itinerant justices. Indeed, he is found acting in that capacity in Hertfordshire later in the same year."[8]

Disputed Children
Two known children: Hugh (who married Hawise de Quincy), and Eleanor (who married Ralph Gernon).[7][9]
Lacking sources, the following profiles were detached as children:
Robert de Vere (1208-1250)
Alice (de Vere) Pomeroy (1186-1206)
? #Weis Page: 60-28, 246-27; #Cokayne Page: X 210-216
? Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors & cousins (#Lewis)
? Source: #Weis Page: 60-28, 246-27
? Source: #Cokayne Page: X 210-216
? Royal Ancestry (Richardson) Vol V pg 251: "He was probably born after 1164". Richardson says nothing about christening.
? 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 6.5 6.6 6.7 Taken from biography of Robert de Vere, courtesy of Professor Nigel Saul and the Magna Carta 800th Anniversary Committee, that had been posted in WikiTree (since edited into sections and combined with material from other sources)
? 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 Medieval Lands (#Cawley)
? 8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3 8.4 8.5 Dictionary of National Biography ([#DNB|full citation below]])
? 9.0 9.1 Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol IV, p 261 VERE (#Richardson)
? Wikipedia (citation below)
? #Weis Page: 60-28, 246-27; #Cokayne Page: X 210-216
Professor Nigel Saul, biography of Robert de Vere, posted by the Magna Carta 800th Anniversary Committee (accessed 26 March 2018)
Charles Cawley, Medieval Lands, database online (Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, 2006-2013), England, Earls created 1138-1143, Chapter 9, Oxford: A. EARLS of OXFORD 1142-1526 (VERE) 2.c.iii. Robert de Vere
The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Vols. I-XII, Cokayne, George Edward, (St. Catherine Press Ltd., London, 1910-1959).
Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came to New England between 1623 and 1650, 6th ed.,Weis, Frederick (Lewis Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, Maryland, 1988)
Dictionary of National Biography, database online, Internet Archive, (London, Smith, Elder & Co., 1899), Vol. 58, page 243.
Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Vol. IV p. 261-263
Richardson's Royal Ancestry, Vol. V p. 251-253 (2013)
500-Year De Vere Pedigree by the De Vere Society
Wikipedia: Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford
Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins, database online, entry for Robert de Vere, Magna Carta Surety, Compiler: Mr. Marlyn Lewis, Portland, OR, 97232, citing Weis and Richardson, Robert de Vere
Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford, "thepeerage" (website, compiled by Darryl Lundy, Ngaio, Wellington, New Zealand; accessed 26 March 2018) 
de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford Robert (I4675)
946 Robert de Vere, Knt., 5th Earl of Oxford[1][2]

"Sir Robert de Vere, 5th Earl Oxford, Baron of Hedingham & Whitchurch, Master Chamberlain of England was born circa 1240 at of Castle Hedingham, Earls Colne, Great Bentley, Great Canfield, Helion, Bumpstead, & Ramsey, Essex, England; Age 22 or 23 in 1263. He married Alice de Sanford, daughter of Gilbert de Sanford, Lord Sanford and Lora (Lorette) Zouche, before 22 February 1252; They had 6 sons and 2 daughters (Joan, wife of Sir William de Warenne; & Hawise). Sir Robert de Vere, 5th Earl Oxford, Baron of Hedingham & Whitchurch, Master Chamberlain of England died on 25 August 1296; Buried at Earls Colne Priory, Essex."[3]
Early Life
Parents: Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford (abt.1210 - ante 23 Dec 1263), married after 11 February 1223 Hawise de Quincy (b.abt.1200/12 - aft 1263).[4]
Born: "son and heir, born about 1240/1 (aged variously 22, 23, and 23 1/2 at his father's death)"[1]
Married: Alice de Sanford after June 1249 (grant of her wardship) and before 22 Feb 1252[1]
Children: 6 sons, 2 daughters:[1][5]
Robert de Vere, Knt., married Margaret de Mortimer[2]
Hugh de Vere, Knt., married Denise de Munchensy[2]
Alphonse de Vere, Knt., married Joan Foliot[2]
Gilbert de Vere (clerk)[2]
Philip de Vere (clerk)[2]
John de Vere[2]
Joan de Vere, married William de Warenne, Knt.[2]
Hawise de Vere[2]
Hereditary Master Chamberlain of England[1]
Death and Burial
Sir Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford, died before 7 September 1296. His widow, Alice, Countess of Oxford, died at Canfield, Essex 7 September 1312. They were buried at Earls Colne, Essex.[1]
? 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Vol IV, pp 262-266 VERE #2, #3 Robert de Vere, Knt.
? 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), Vol V, pp 254-257
? Sir Robert de Vere, 5th Earl Oxford, Baron of Hedingham & Whitchurch, Master Chamberlain of England, "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins" (website, compiled by Mr. Marlyn Lewis, Portland, OR; accessed 27 March 2018), citing The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. X, p. 219-220; Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 132; and Douglas Richardson's works:
Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, pp 262-264.
Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 751.
Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, pp 602-603; Vol. V, pp 312, 252-253
? Earls of Winchester. Medieval Lands.
? Note: In Royal Ancestry (2013), Richardson corrected his list of sons from 2011's Magna Carta Ancestry, which had listed a son named Thomas erroneously, instead of the son named John. Cawley lists a grandson named Thomas (son of Robert), as does Richardson. See Cawley's entry in Medieval Lands for Hugh de Vere (accessed 27 March 2018) 
de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford Robert (I4671)
947 Robert was the only son of Robert, second earl of Leicester, and Amice (daughter of Ralph de Gael). He was born after a number of elder sisters. He inherited from his father large estates in England and Normandy.

After 1154 he seems to have spent much of his time in charge of the Leicester lands in Normandy. By 1159 he had received from the king the marriage of Petronilla, daughter & heir of William de Grandmesnil.

The seal he used before his father's death demonstrates that he had taken the surname de Breteuil. This has some significance in that it reveals him stressing his descent from William fitz Osbern.

Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester (1168–1190) was an English nobleman, one of the principal followers of Henry the Young King in the Revolt of 1173–1174 against his father Henry II. He is also called Robert Blanchemains (meaning "White Hands" in French) and Robert Harcourt. Lord High Steward 1168–1190 [1].

When the revolt of the younger Henry broke out in April 1173, Robert went to his castle at Breteuil in Normandy. The rebels' aim was to take control of the duchy, but Henry II himself led an army to besiege the castle; Robert fled, and the Breteuil was taken on September 25 or 26.

Robert apparently went to Flanders, where he raised a large force of mercenaries, and landed at Walton, Suffolk, on 29 September 1173. He joined forces with Hugh Bigod, 1st Earl of Norfolk, and the two marched west, aiming to cut England in two across the Midlands and to relieve the king's siege of Robert's castle at Leicester. However, they were intercepted by the king's supporters and defeated in battle at Fornham, near Bury St Edmunds, on 17 October. Robert, along with his wife and many others, was taken prisoner. Henry II took away the earl's lands and titles as well.

He remained in captivity until January 1177, well after most of the other prisoners had been released. The king was in a strong position and could afford to be merciful; not long after his release Robert's lands and titles were restored, but not his castles. All but two of his castles had been destroyed, and those two (Montsorrel in Leicestershire and Pacy in Normandy) remained in the king's hands.

Robert had little influence in the remaining years of Henry II's reign, but was restored to favour by Richard I. He carried one of the swords of state at Richard's coronation in 1189.

Robert took part in the third crusade and died at Durazzo (others say Dyrrachium), in 1190, probably at the end of August. He was buried in Leicester Abbey.


He had three sons, William de Breteuil (who predeceased him in 1189), Robert, who succeeded him as earl, and Roger, who was elected bishop of St Andrews in 1189. He also had several daughters, among them: Amice married first Simon de Montfort the younger, count of Évreux, and second William des Barres the elder; Margaret married Saer de Quincy (d. 1219); Hawise entered the priory of Nuneaton as a nun, and another daughter, Petronilla, is mentioned in the obituary of Lyre Abbey.

Royal Database, Camelot International, Good (Burke's old records)
Ancestral File Number: 8HRJ-4K 91VK-GS
Oxford Dictionary of National Biography
The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest, by Jim Weber,
Nichol's Lcstrs, vol 1 pt 1 p. 98 (GS #Q942.54 H2nic)
Wurts' Magna Charta vol 1-2 p. 185 (GS #942 D22w)
Clutterbuck's Hrtfrd, vol 3 p. 287 (GS #Q942.58 H2c)
Complete Peerage vol 7 p. 520 (GS #942 D24c)
Dict of Nat'l Biog vol 4 p. 67, 68, 113 (GS # Ref 920.042 D561n)
Plantagenet Ancestry p. 100 (GS #Q940 D2t)
The Battle Abbey Roll vol 3 p. 47, vol 2 p. 306-326, vol 1 p. 148
Dugdale's Baronage of England, vol 1 p. 868 (GS #Q942 D22dw)
Baker's Nrthmp, vol 1 p. 563, 241 (GS #Q942.55 H2ba)
Adjusted for Leland J. Hendrix (21 gg son to #2) 931 S. 100 E., Orem, Utah 84057, 18 Apr 1968
Proving Your Pedigree (GS #929.1 B439p)
Americans of Royal Descent (GS #973 D2ba)

de Beaumont, Sir Robert (I3734)
948 Robert was the son of "Robert de Brus, Knt., lord of Annandale . . . and, in right of his wife, Earl of Carrick" and Marjory (or Margaret) of Carrick, who married about 1273.[1]

Robert married (1) Isabel of Mar about 1295 and (2) Elizabeth de Burgh in 1302.[2]

Robert and his first wife had one child; he had four children by his second wife; and he had several illegitimate children (see tables below, which had listed six illegitimate children; Richardson lists five).[2]

Robert the Bruce—Robert I, King of Scots—"died at Cardross, Dumbartonshire 7 June 1329, and was buried in the middle of the choir before the high altar [in] the abbey church of Dunfermline, Fife."[3]

Robert the Bruce (1274-1329)
With the defeat of the English at the Battle of Bannockburn, Robert the Bruce secured Scottish sovereignty. Until James VI and I ascended the throne, his descendants would rule Scotland for three hundred years.[4]
1306 - 1329: Robert I, King of Scotland[4][5][6][7][8][9]
Liberator; 'Good King Robert'[4]
Given Name: Robert de Bruce
Alias: Robert de Bruce VIII (to distinguish him from his father and grandfather)
Early Life
Name Spouses
Father Robert de Brus, 1st Lord Brus (Jul 1243 – bef. 04 Mar 1304) m.1 Margaret of Carrick
m.2 Eleanor

Mother Margaret "Marjorie." Countess of Carrick ( c.1253 or 1256 – bef. 09 Nov 1292) m.1 Adam of Kilconquhar
m.2 Robert de Brus, 6th Lord of Annandale


m.1 Isabella of Mar[10]
no. Name Years Spouse Issue
1. Marjorie d.02 Mar 1315/16[11] Walter the High Steward Robert Stewart a.k.a Robert II, King of Scots
m.2 Elisabeth de Burgh[12]
no. Name Years Spouse Issue
2. Matilda d.20 Jul 1353[13] Thomas Isaac[14] Joanna m. John of Lorn[15]

3. Margaret m. 1345 William, 4th earl of Sutherland John[17]
William, 5th earl of Sutherland.

4. David II, King of Scots
5. John d.Young[18]
Illegitimate Children[19]
no. Name Years Spouse Issue
6. Sir Robert d.12 Aug 1332 Battle of Dupplin[20]
7. Walter of Odistown on the Clyde
not listed by Richardson[2] predeceased father.
7. Nigel of Carrick[21] d. Battle of Durham[22]
8. Margaret living 20 Feb 1363/4) Robert Glen
9. Elisabeth Sir Walter Oliphant of Gask
10. Christian of Carrick living 1328-29[23]
11 July 1274: b. Writtle, Chelmsford, Essex, England.
27 Oct 1292: Earl of Carrick[24]
1295: #m.1 Isabella, Lady of Mar[25]
Btw 1295 - 1304: Lord of Annandale
1299: Becomes a regent.[26]
1302: #m.2 Lady Elizabeth de Burgh[27]
1304 Robert 'the Elder' Bruce dies.[28]
abt Apr 1304: 2nd Lord Brus
1305: Edward I executes William Wallace.[4]
Bruce consulted about making Scotland an English province.

20 Feb 1305/6: Attainted[29]
1306: Murders John 'the Red' Comyn at Greyfriars Kirk in Dumfries.[28][30]
27 Mar 1306: Crowned at Scone Abbey, Scone, Perthshire, Scotland[31]
1307: Deposed by Edward I.[32]
07 Jul 1307 Edward I dies.
1314: Battle of Bannockburn: Beats English[33]
May 1316: Bros. Edward is High King of Ireland.[4]
Oct 1318: Edward, High King of Ireland dies at Battle of Dundall.[4]
1323: Truce with Edward II[34]
1324: Papacy recognizes Robert as king of independent Scotland.[28]
Treaty of Corbeil: Franco-Scottish alliance renewed.[28]

1327: War after accession of Edward III. Scots win.
1328: Treaty recognizing independence of Scotland and Bruce's right to the throne.
07 Jun 1329: Dies at at Cardross Castle, Cardross, Argyllshire, Scotland on the northern shore of the Firth of Clyde. Burial: Dunfermline and Melrose Abbeys. Age 54. Successor: David II[35][36]
? Richardson's Royal Ancestry, Vol I, p 596 BRUS #7
? 2.0 2.1 2.2 Richardson's Royal Ancestry, Vol I, pp 605-610 BRUS #8
? Richardson's Royal Ancestry, Vol 1, p 606
? 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.5 Ashley, Mike (2008). A Brief History of British Kings & Queens. pp.158-161, 460-461. Philadelphia: Running Press Book Publishers. Print
? Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 209.
? G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume II, page 360.
? : Leslie Stephen, editor, Dictionary of National Biography (London, U.K.: Smith, Elder & Company, 1908), volume II, page 117-128.
? Sir James Balfour Paul, The Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's The Peerage of Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland: David Douglas, 1904), volume 1, pages 7-8.
? Scottish kings - a revised chronology of Scottish history, 1005-1625. Published 1899 by D. Douglas in Edinburgh.
? Footnotes for Family Tables
Only child.
? Horse fall near Paisley, Renfrewshire
? Issue: 2 sons (David and John), 2 dau. (Matilda and Margaret)
? d. Aberdeen; buried: Dunfermline.
? 'a certain squire,'
? lord of that Ilk
? Single. d. Stirling.
? d. England as hostage for uncle, King David II.
? d. childhood; burial: Priory of Restennet in Forfarshire.
? Several appear in records.
? had 500 merks yr. from king. Slain.
? had 20 yearly.
? Slain.
? last footnote for Family tables
? Timeline Footnotes
Pays homage to Edward I who beat John de Baliol in 1296, then refused to acknowledge another king of Scotland. Bruce later abandons Edward's cause and joins other Scot leaders in taking up arms for independence. For this he was attainted.
? dau. Sir Donald, 6th Earl of Mar and Helen
? The year after Scottish patriot Sir William Wallace defeated by Edward at Falkirk, Bruce, still in favor with Edward, was made one of the four regents who ruled kingdom in the name of Baliol.
? dau. Richard de Burgh, 2nd Earl of Ulster and Margaret de Burgh
? 28.0 28.1 28.2 28.3 Robert the Bruce, King of Scots 1306 – 1329. BBC.
? English estates forfeit by Edward I.
? Met old enemy, Scottish patriot John Comyn (nephew of Baliol). Quarreled. And Bruce stabs Comyn. Bruce excommunicated and outlawed. Scotland plunged into civil war.
? Deposed
? Fled to highlands, then island of Rathlin on Antrim (now in Northern Ireland) coast. In his absence, his estates were confiscated, and he and his followers were excommunicated. He continued to recruit followers, however, and in less than two years he wrested nearly all of Scotland from the English.
? Invades England twice.
? lasts 13 years.
? In later years Bruce was stricken with leprosy [this is disputed - some say that this applies to his father or grandfather] and lived in seclusion at Cardross Castle, Cardross, Argyllshire, Scotland on the northern shore of the Firth of Clyde where he died.
His body was buried at Dunfermline Abbey, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland. But his heart is at Melrose. Embalmed, it was to be taken on crusade by his lieutenant and friend Sir James Douglas to the Holy Land, but only reached Moorish Granada, where it acted as a talisman for the Scottish contingent at the Battle of Teba.
He was succeeded by his son, David II. Bruce's nephew, Robert II, who succeeded David, was the first king of the Stuart house of English and Scottish royalty.
"Bruce, Robert," Microsoft® Encarta® Online Encyclopedia 2000
? last Timeline footnote
Sir Robert I de Brus, King of Scotland, Earl of Carrick, Lord of Annandale, "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins" (website, compiled by Mr. Marlyn Lewis, Portland, OR; accessed 19 December 2017)
Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013)
Vol I, pp 78-79
Vol I, p 588 BRUS
Vol I, pp 589-596 (his grandfather's main entry); his grandmother was the daughter of a surety baron (see above)
Vol I, pp 596-605 (his father's main entry)
Vol I, pp 605-610 (his main entry)
Vol I, pp 610-615 (his daughter Margery's main entry)
Vol II, p 17
Vol V, p 39
Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011)
Vol I, p 446 CLARE
Vol 1, pp 446-451 (Richard de Clare's main entry)
Vol I, pp 451-460 (Gilbert de Clare's main entry)
Vol III, pp 520-521
Vol III, pp 528-529
Vol IV, p 102
Burke, Bernard. Royal Descents and Pedigrees of Founders Kin (Harrison, London, 1864) Page 10-18
the Bruce, Robert King of Scotland (I4662)
949 Roger de Quincy, Knt., 2nd Earl of Winchester, was the son of Saier Quincy and Margaret Beaumont.[1] He was probably born about 1195[2] (in 1217/18 he consented to a charter made by his father, so must have been of age).[3][4]

Roger was the second but eldest surviving son of Saher de Quincy, a Magna Carta Surety, and became his heir after his older brother Robert died.[1]

Roger married Ellen,[5] daughter of Alan Fitz Roland, Lord of Galloway, by his first wife, a daughter of Roger de Lacy, Knt.[1][6]

Roger and Ellen had three daughters:[1]

Margaret (or Margery) de Quincy, married William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby[1][7]
Elizabeth (or Isabel) de Quincy, married Alexander Comyn[1][8]
Ellen de Quincy, married Alan la Zouche of Ashby de la Zouche in Leicestershire[1]
Roger's wife Ellen (or Helen) of Galloway died after 21 November 1245 and was buried at Brackely, Northamptonshire, England.[1]

By 12 June 1250, Roger had married (2) Maud de Bohun. They had no children.[1]

Just previous to 17 January 1252/53, Roger married (3) Eleanor Ferrers,[1] the widow of William de Vaux and daughter of Roger's son-in-law William de Ferrers (Margaret's husband).[9][7] They also had no children. Eleanor survived Roger and remarried in 1267 to Roger de Leybourne.[1]

Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester, Constable of Scotland, died 25 April 1264 and "was probably buried at Brackley, Northamptonshire."[1][10] After his death, his lands were held in dower by Eleanor and her husband Roger de Leybourne to be distributed to Roger de Quincy's three daughters.[11]

Life Events

On 16 December 1215, Roger was excommunicated by the Pope, along with his father, in consequence of his father guaranteeing the provisions of the Magna Carta.[1]
He "probably joined his father on the Fifth Crusade in 1219, where the elder de Quincy fell sick and died. Since Roger's older brother Robert had died a few years earlier, he inherited his father's estates on his return, but was not recognised as earl until his mother died in 1235."[2]
Roger married Helen, eldest daughter and co-heiress of Alan, Lord of Galloway. Without legitimate sons to succeed him, Alan's lands and dignities were divided between the husbands of his three daughters, so Roger acquired Alan's position as Constable of Scotland, and one-third of the lordship of Galloway (although the actual title of Lord of Galloway went through Helen's half-sister Devorguilla to her husband John I de Balliol).[12]
In 1247, Roger's too strict rule of Galloway incited a revolt. His castle was besieged and, deciding to make a dash for it rather than starve to death, he mounted his horse and bolted through the gates with a few followers. They cut their way through the enemy lines and rode all the way to the Scottish court, where King Alexander came to his aid, punished the rebels and restored the earl's authority.[1]
"In the parliament of Oxford of 1258 he was one of the twelve elected by the 'community' to attend the three annual parliaments and exercise the rights of parliament. He was further elected one of the twenty-four commissioners to treat of aid to the king (Annals of Burton, i. 449–50), and was one of the witnesses to the king's confirmation of the acts of the council (ib. p. 456). When Richard of Cornwall was returning from Germany early in 1259, Earl Roger, in company with Walter, bishop of Worcester, and others, on behalf of the barons met him at St. Omer, and forbade him to cross over to England until he had sworn to observe the provisions of Oxford. After eleven days of dispute they obtained a satisfactory guarantee (Wykes, iv. 121–2)."[12]

The arms of Roger de Quincy are described as "Gules, seven mascules conjoined, three, three, and one, or."[13]
Professor Salisbury, Family Memorials (1885), page 308, reports that Roger de Quincy assumed the device of the seven mascules and goes on to explain that "it appears that the descendants of the younger sons of Saher de Quincy were very numerous, and, as the lands and property were divided, they went into different employments, and became part of the yeomanry of England, but yet carefully retained the arms, and the tradition of their Norman descent." This may explain the use of this device by the Quincys of Massachusetts to this day.[14]
According to Richard Thomson, An Historical Essay on the Magna Charta of King John, these arms were borne by Ferrers of Groby;[15] who were descendants of William de Ferrers, a younger son of Margaret de Quincy and William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby.

? 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 Royal Ancestry, Volume IV, pages 446-449 Quincy #7. Roger de Quincy, Knt. (Richardson, citation below.)
? 2.0 2.1 Wikipedia: Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester
? Roger de Quincy, entry in Cawley's database (see below).
? Birth place of "Winchester, Hampshire, England" is assumed.
? Wikipedia (citation above) calls her Helen. Marriage date of about 1221 is based on the birth years in the WikiTree profiles of their daughters (1222, 1223) and her estimated birth year of 1204.
? Alan of Galloway, daughter, entries in Cawley's database (see below). The WikiTree profile Alice de Lacy is attached as Ellen of Galloway's mother as of 20 October 2018. Alice's profile notes debate about Ellen's mother, and says (in part) that "Douglas [Richardson]'s pointing to the descent of the Manor of Kippax as proof of his 1st wife's ancestry" is why the profile for a Lacy daughter is attached as Ellen's mother. It also says that "Alex Stewart names her Alice, according to Hans Vogels, in an e-mail." (Lacy-878, accessed 20 Oct. 2018)
? 7.0 7.1 About 14 years after Margaret de Quincy married William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby, her father Roger de Quincy married as his third wife Eleanor de Ferrers, the daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby, by his first wife Sybil Marshal, the daughter of William Marshal. Margaret de Quincy was Roger's daughter by his first wife, Ellen of Galloway. (Royal Ancestry, Volume II, pages 561-564 FERRERS #7. [Richardson, citation below].)
? Elizabeth de Quincy and Hugh de Neville were "betrothed by contract dated Feb. 1240/1.... It is uncertain if this marriage ever took place." (Royal Ancestry, Volume II, page 3 BUCHAN #8. [Richardson, citation below].) In Richardson's earlier work, Magna Carta Ancestry, Volume I, page 150 BEAUMONT #3. (Google Book online), he noted that the "marriage subsequently ended in divorce about 1256."
? Royal Ancestry, Volume II, pages 561-564 FERRERS #7. (Richardson, citation below.)
? Datafield had "(bur.) Church of St. Peter's & St. James, Brackley, Northamptonshire, England" but I couldn't find support for that in the text or sources I could access. Death in England is assumed. ~ Noland-165, 20 October 2018
? Calendar of inquisitions post mortem and other analogous documents preserved in the Public Record Office by Great Britain. Public Record Office; Kirby, J. L. (John Lavan); White, Andrew Dickson, 1832-1918. available at
? 12.0 12.1 William Hunt, Dictionary of National Biography, Vol. 47, subentry for Roger de Quincy (WikiSource)
? A.C. Fox-Davies: A Complete Guide to Heraldry, London, 1909, p 147 available here.
? Cannot examine this reference - Salisbury's Family Memorials
? Richard Thomson, An Historical Essay on the Magna Charta of King John (London, 1829), p XXIII; available at
Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013)
Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Vol III, pages 412-414, QUINCY #2.
See also:
Phillimore, W.P.W & Fry, George S. Abstracts of Gloucestershire Inquisitiones Post Mortem Returned Into the Court of Chancery (British Record Society, London, 1893) Part IV. 20 Henry III. to 29 Edward I. 1236-1300, Page 48
Weis, Frederick Lewis.The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, , Th. D., Publication: Fourth Edition (With Additions and Corrections By Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., M. S.; 1971)
Roger de Quincy, Seals of the Earl of Winchester requires paid login.
David Thaler, database online, entry for Roger de Quincy, 18043 NE 132nd St, Redmond, Washington, 98052, dthaler[at]
Sir Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester, Constable of Scotland, "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins" (website, compiled by Mr. Marlyn Lewis, Portland, OR; accessed 20 October 2018)
Geni: Roger de Quincy (extensive biography and references).
Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and Other Analogous Documents preserved in the Public Record Office (H.M. Stationery Office, London, 1904) Vol. 1: Henry III., Page 187-8: #587. Page 233: #732.
Page 254-8: #776. Roger de Quency alias de Quincy, sometime Earl of Winchester. "...Roger de Leyburn and Eleanor his wife hold as dower of the said Eleanor, of the inheritance of Roger de Quency late her husband, in order that Margaret de Ferariis, countess of Derby, Ellen, late the wife of Alan la Zouche, and Alexander Comyn, earl of Buchan (Bochan), and Elizabeth his wife, the co-heirs of the said Roger ... 14 Oct. 55 Hen. III."
A8B36 Bukleley Gen p 12; Royal Anc of Magna Charta Baron p 121,208; Gen of Greens Bouhs Domanet & Peerage;Eng Pub A.L.vol; Eng 116; R710 p 374; Bed 6 Vol 5 236; Bessie Rogers No 44 in Archives
Magna Charta Surity. Genealogical Society of Utah; Gareth Rice
Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came to New England Sixth Edition by Frederick Lewis Weis Genealogical Publishing Co. Baltimore 1988
The Oxford Illistrated History of the British Monarchy by Cannon and Griffith.
The Magna Charta Sureties by F. L. Weis.
Robert Sewell
Grant G. Simpson, An Anglo-Scottish Baron of the Thirteenth century: the Acts of Roger de Quincy Earl of Winchester and Constable of Scotland (Unpublished PhD Thesis, Edinburgh 1963).
Plantagenet Ancestry p. 100-02
Complete Peerage vol 12 pt 2 p. 753, 934, vol 2 p. 199
The Battle Abbey Roll vol 1, p. 26, vol 3, p. 47-49, 87
Doomsday Book p. 7
Notes and Queries 5s vol 2 p. 129, 171
The Roll of Battle Abbey p. 93-94
Dugdale's Baronage of England Vol 1 p. 686-88
Peerage of the British Isles 1883, p. 447 
De Quincy, Roger (I4341)
950 Roger FitzJohn, 4th Lord Warkworth, and 2nd Baron Clavering[1] was born after 1219 at Clavering, Essex, Horsford, Norfolk, England. He was a minor at his father's death.[2]
He married Isabel de Dunbar, daughter of Sir Patrick Dunbar, 6th Earl Dunbar and Euphemia de Brus, circa 1245. They had 1 son (Sir Robert, Lord FitzRoger) and 1 daughter (Eupheme, wife of Sir William Comyn, & of Sir Andrew de Moray).[3]
Roger FitzJohn died circa 22 June 1249 in Normandy at a tournament.[2]

Father: John FitzRobert, 3rd Lord of Warkworth and 1st Lord of Clavering in Essex[1] (1191 - c. 20 Feb 1241) [4] [5]
Magna Charta Baron, Sheriff of Norfolk, Suffolk, & NBL[6]
Mother: Ada de Baliol[6][7] (c. 1200 - d. 29 Jul 1251)[8] [9]

Isabel de Dunbar (d. a 1269). Issue:
Eupheme or Euphemia de Clavering+7,[10] (d. 1288)
m. Sir William Comyn
m. Sir Andrew de Moray
Sir Robert FitzRoger,[1] 5th Baron Warkworth, 3rd Baron Clavering, 1st Lord FitzRoger[2][11] (c.1247 - 29 Apr 1310)

Magna Carta Ancestry 2011 2nd ed. Vol. I p. 489
? 1.0 1.1 1.2 Burke & Burke, 1868
? 2.0 2.1 2.2 Magna Carta Ancestry, n.d., pp. 489; Royal Ancestry, n.d., p. 221-222.
? Magna Carta Ancestry, n.d., pp. 489; Royal Ancestry, n.d., p. 221-222, 479.
? Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 219-222
? Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins
? 6.0 6.1 Magna Carta Ancestry, n.d., pp. 487; Royal Ancestry, n.d., p. 219-220.
? FamilySearch. Ancestral File Number: 9RFQ-4X; Father: Hugh Balliol (Burke & Burke, 1868)
? Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 219-222
? Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins
? Royal Ancestry, n.d., p. 221-222.
? 02 Nov 1295: Summoned to Parliament as Baron (Burke & Burke, 1868)
See also:
Cokayne, (n.d.). The Complete Peerage, (Vol. III, pp. 274). N.p.
MCP 4 Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins database online, compiled by Mr. Marlyn Lewis, follows Douglas Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry. It includes Magna Carta Surety Barons and many of their descendants. Roger FitzJohn, 4th Lord Warkworth
MCP 1. Weis, F.L. (1999). The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, (5th ed). Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Burke, J. & Burke, J.B. (1848). The Royal Families of England, Scotland, and Wales, with Their Descendants, Sovereigns and Subjects, (pp.lxxxi). Churchton. Google Books.
Richardson, D. (n.d.). Magna Carta Ancestry, (2 ed., Vol. I, pp. 487, 489). N.p.
Richardson, D. (n.d.). Royal Ancestry, (Vol. II, p. 219-222). N.p.
Weis, F.L. (n.d.). Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists, (pp. 156). N.p.
FitzJohn, Roger Clavering (I4562)

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